Re: Existence - not "better" than never existing
Bob Casanova <[email protected]> Mon, 14 Apr 2025 14:55:54 -0700
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 21:12:08 +0100, the following appeared in sci.skeptic, posted by "Kerr-Mudd, John" <[email protected]>: >On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 12:34:23 -0700 >Bob Casanova <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 09:31:04 -0700, the following appeared >> in sci.skeptic, posted by Ron Hamilton >> <[email protected]>: >> >> >On 1/21/2011 10:18 AM, T. Howard Pines, Jr. wrote: >> >> Coming into existence, or "getting to experience life", is not better than never >> >> existing. It can't be, because no such comparison can be made. Nor can >> >> existence be worse than never existing, for the same reason. >> > >> >Correct. >> > >> Agreed. While the stated comparison isn't, strictly speaking >> and AFAIK, a logical fallacy, it *is* an error in logic. >> >> >> >> In order to say that anything is better or worse for an entity, one necessarily >> >> is talking about two different states of welfare or well-being for the entity. >> >> But an entity must exist in order to have a welfare state of well-being. Thus, >> >> the comparison between existence and non-existence, from the perspective of the >> >> entity, cannot be made. It is absurd. >> > >> >Also correct. > >I think "David" no longer posts to Usenet. > >It's been 14 years since this "discussion" > "David"? I only see Ron and T. Howard. That aside, I didn't notice the age; thanks for the heads-up. > -- Bob C. "The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not 'Eureka!' but 'That's funny...'" - Isaac Asimov