Re: Existence - not "better" than never existing

R. Daneel Olivaw <[email protected]> Mon, 08 Dec 2025 23:20:27 +0000
Newsgroups alt.philosophy,alt.atheism,sci.skeptic,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,sci.environment
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 14:44:45 -0800, "T. Howard Pines, Jr."
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Coming into existence, or "getting to experience life", is not better than never 
>existing.  

Ipse dixit

> It can't be, because no such comparison can be made.  

But you just did, nevertheless, and came to the conclusion that "Coming into
existence is not better than never existing."

>Nor can 
>existence be worse than never existing, 

Ipse dixit, again.

>for the same reason.

But you did anyway.

>In order to say that anything is better or worse for an entity, one necessarily 
>is talking about two different states of welfare or well-being for the entity. 

Meaning a third person is required to judge. Your argument breaks a lot of
rules - two baseless assertions followed by false dichotomy.

>But an entity must exist in order to have a welfare state of well-being.  Thus, 
>the comparison between existence and non-existence, from the perspective of the 
>entity, cannot be made.  It is absurd.

I agree.