Re: Existence - not "better" than never existing
R. Daneel Olivaw <[email protected]> Mon, 08 Dec 2025 23:20:27 +0000
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2025 14:44:45 -0800, "T. Howard Pines, Jr." <[email protected]> wrote: >Coming into existence, or "getting to experience life", is not better than never >existing. Ipse dixit > It can't be, because no such comparison can be made. But you just did, nevertheless, and came to the conclusion that "Coming into existence is not better than never existing." >Nor can >existence be worse than never existing, Ipse dixit, again. >for the same reason. But you did anyway. >In order to say that anything is better or worse for an entity, one necessarily >is talking about two different states of welfare or well-being for the entity. Meaning a third person is required to judge. Your argument breaks a lot of rules - two baseless assertions followed by false dichotomy. >But an entity must exist in order to have a welfare state of well-being. Thus, >the comparison between existence and non-existence, from the perspective of the >entity, cannot be made. It is absurd. I agree.