210,000 Year-Old Human Skull Found in Greece
"57e.1283" <[email protected]> Wed, 17 Jan 2024 22:30:23 -0500
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https://greekreporter.com/2024/01/17/first-known-homo-sapiens-outside-africa-was-greek/ A partial skull found in a cave in southern Greece is the earliest evidence of the presence of Homo sapiens outside of Africa, scientists say. In 1978, archaeologists excavating Apidima Cave on the Mani Peninsula of Greece discovered two significant fossils: a partial skull and a jawbone. These fossils were originally thought to belong to Neanderthals, the archaic human species that dominated Europe in the Middle Paleolithic era. However, a reexamination of the fossils in 2019 revealed that they were much older than previously thought and that one of them belonged to a Homo sapiens, the first anatomically modern human species. The team of researchers dated the skull to about 210,000 years old, which makes the skull about 150,000 years older than the oldest fossil of Homo sapiens found in Europe and the third-oldest known example of modern humanity. A second skull found in the same location was estimated to be at least 170,000 years old belonging to Neanderthals . . . Interesting. Remains of essentially 'modern' humans were found in eastern Morocco about a decade ago. Those were dated to around 300,000 years. So, not ALL so long before the new humans went wandering. HOW at least one managed to arrive in Greece is so far unclear. Did he come from around Suez and over, or maybe some kind of boat directly across ??? This article does not mention DNA ... so likely the recovered skull had little or none to analyze. 210,000 years is not impossible for DNA, but it would take an especially good preservation environment. Rumors are that we probably have enough Neanderthal DNA now to splice-together a few new examples, just need willing surrogate moms (50 years on we may not even need human 'moms'). Not THAT much genetic diff, so it ought to work. News today was that the Chinese have managed to properly clone Macaque monkeys so other primates are now possible (ELVIS !!!). Ethics ... if we re-create Neanderthals we need to create ENOUGH of them to constitute a sustainable genetically- viable population AND find some place for them to live relatively unbothered. However my guess is that there will not be much diff ... indeed a Neanderthal probably could pass unnoticed on the streets of a smallish Slavic town, after dark anyway. (oddly, from descriptions in old passed-down stories, I suspect Neanderthals were the basis for "trolls" - the description kinda matches) As for the Greek example ... we have to wonder if this was a solo traveler, part of a group or even cohabited with Neanderthal hosts. Finally, note that 210,000 years ago was BEFORE the last ice-age. Almost all of Europe would have been quite "livable". When the ice age came, those north of roughly Paris would have had to migrate south, or perish. The Past is COMPLEX. The old simple pictures they sold in the schools 50+ years ago do not even begin to cover it. It's more a genetic/geographical/cultural Gordian knot.