Re: Bogus A.A.P.C. GUIDELINES & FAQS (Revised 5/31/2026)

Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
> Will Dockery <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
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> [flush lies]
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>> Until the members of a.a.p.c. approve a revised FAQ, the original
>> stands.
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> I approved it, Douchebag. You have no power here, you're simply a
> punching bag.
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https://myimgs.org/image/2Zk8zvGH <- Indeed!
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> You're just as stupid as NoNads.
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> MMP's post is restored.
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> [email protected] (HarryLime) wrote
> in news:[email protected]:
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>> THE OFFICIAL A.A.P.C. GUIDELINES & FAQS
>>
>> INTRODUCTION:
>>
>> Welcome to the Usenet group alt.arts.poetry.comments, or a.a.p.c.
>> Usenet is an unmoderated platform and does not have any hard and fast
>> rules.
>>
>> However, a.a.p.c. is also a group. And as in any group, there are
>> certain behaviors that are considered to be polite, and others that
>> are considered to be downright rude.
>>
>> The Guidelines (below) are being offered as advice to members who are
>> interested in treating their fellow members in a polite, considerate,
>> and even friendly manner.
>>
>> Trolls and other inconsiderate boors are free to skip and ignore them.
>>
>> 1) Treat other members with some semblance of civility. Like generates
>> like. If you treat others with a little respect, they’ll probably
>> return the favor.
>>
>> 2) Post On-Topic. The topic here is Poetry, so post an original poem
>> or comment on someone else’s poetry. If you want to discuss folk
>> music, “Star Trek,” comic books or post videos of the “talent”
>> at your local karaoke bar, you’re in the wrong group.
>>
>> 3) Don’t over post. Limiting one’s posts to 10 per day is greatly
>> appreciated. Making 25 posts per day can be damned annoying; so unless
>> you’re the most interesting and knowledgeable writer on the planet,
>> save it for your personal blog. 4) Don’t hijack other people’s
>> threads. If a thread’s topic is “Walt Whitman,” you should only
>> make a comment pertaining to Walt Whitman. If you wish to discuss a
>> poem you’ve written that was inspired by Mr. Whitman, start your own
>> thread.
>>
>> 5) Flame wars happen " especially in unmoderated groups like this one.
>> However, there are certain lines that no one should ever cross.
>> Don’t attack your opponent’s family members (unless he/she
>> introduces them into the discussion). And remember that what happens
>> on AAPC stays at AAPC. Don’t threaten to contact your opponent’s
>> spouse, employer, etc.
>>
>> 6) Don’t repeat or bump posts. If you post an original poem and no
>> one comments on it… tough cookies. Lack of response means that no
>> one found it interesting enough to warrant one. If you must repost it,
>> at least have the decency to wait a year or seven. While you’re
>> waiting you can write something new and try posting it instead.
>> Similarly, if you must bump, please limit yourself to one bump per
>> poem or post.
>>
>> Also, any comment that contains "again" should not be sent. If it is,
>> then the poster should get a good thrashing (again and again and
>> again).
>>
>> *Seasonal poems, however, can be bumped/reposted each year.
>>
>> 7) Don’t respond to a post unless you have something of value to
>> contribute to the thread. One word replies, and generic responses such
>> as "I agree" and "yep" and "You nailed it" and "having another read"
>> should be avoided. Comments mean comments, not clichés.
>>
>> 8 ) Don’t post and run. If you post a famous poem, make an original
>> comment on it. We all have, or are capable of subscribing to, Poem a
>> Day. We don’t need to read (or reread) every single poem that you
>> do. If you like a poem, but can’t think of anything to say about it,
>> don’t post it.
>>
>> 9) Don’t feed the trolls. Restricting the trolls' food intake won't
>> make them go away, but it will thwart their efforts to start, and
>> maintain, flame wars. It takes two sides to have a battle.
>>
>> 10) No AI critiques of poems, no AI poems unless labeled as
>> AI-written. This is a writers' group, after all, so let's leave no
>> doubt as to what is our original content, and what is AI-generated.
>>
>> 11) Always cite the author of a poem. Plagiarism will not be
>> tolerated. Poems not crediting the original author will be deleted.
>>
>> 12) Links should only be posted if they are a) on topic, and b) the
>> media platform that they lead to cannot be uploaded to A.A.P.C. (a
>> video). Links to a member's magazine, book, website, blog, etc. are
>> allowed, but should be accompanied by a brief message (such as "Please
>> check out my latest publication").
>>
>> 13) Do not snip or post-edit any statements quoted in the backthread
>> that you're responding to. No one likes having their statements
>> altered; and writers like it even less. If you cannot address what
>> someone else said -- without first altering their words -- you should
>> just STFU.
>>
>> 14) An attack on friends/family members is considered unwarranted when
>> these individuals have not been introduced into the thread by the
>> member who is friends with/related to them. Parody and Satire are
>> legitimate literary genres, and if a poem being lampooned contains a
>> reference to the poet's wife, then the latter would be fair game so
>> long as the parodist keeps within the limits implied by the original
>> poem.
>>
>> 15) There should be no censorship on Usenet. A.A.P.C. is a Usenet
>> group, and crybabies who whine about having received negative comments
>> are mocked accordingly. Had you followed the Guidelines and treated
>> others with a semblance of civility, they wouldn't have made any
>> offensive posts about you.
>>
>>
>> *Usenet AAPC is not a moderated group, and no one is being forced to
>> follow the Guidelines.
>>
>>
>> FAQs:
>>
>> 1. WHAT IS AAPC?
>> Alt.arts.poetry.comments is a Usenet group of poets who share their
>> work for comments or critiques. Some poets use the group as a sounding
>> board before submitting their poem(s) to literary magazines. Most are
>> looking for advice or help in fine-tuning their writing, developing
>> better images, improving their use of language, and making sure their
>> writing is clear and enjoyable to the reader.
>>
>> 2. WHAT DOES C&C MEAN?
>> Generally, Comments & Critiques (or Criticism). Some writers put this
>> in the header of their post (i.e. "Lazy Day Poem - C&C Please") to
>> indicate that they want comments on their poem. However, since the
>> group is devoted to comments, most posts will receive a reply of some
>> kind even without the C&C designation.
>>
>> 3. HOW SHOULD I POST MY POETRY?
>> There are no cut-and-dried rules for posting poetry to AAPC. However,
>> there are a few "don'ts" that are fairly broadly agreed upon:
>> -- Do not post your poem as an attachment to your message. Most
>> internet users are aware that dangerous computer viruses can be
>> contained in Microsoft Word documents, and will ignore .doc
>> attachments. In general, it is easier on the reader to include the
>> poem in the body of the post; downloading and opening attachments
>> usually takes too much time.
>> -- Do not post using HTML. Some newsgroup-reading software cannot
>> handle HTML posts, and some automatically reject them, so not everyone
>> will see your post. They also are larger in size and take up more
>> space on the computer and more bandwidth in transmission. Most
>> software used to read and post newsgroups allows you to choose between
>> posting as plain text or HTML; choose the plain text option.
>> -- Do not attach pictures (binaries, gifs, jpegs, etc.) or sound files
>> (wavs, midis, mpegs, etc.) to your posts. Again, some news servers
>> will automatically reject them, so not everyone will see your post.
>> -- Do not type your poem or message in all capital letters. Using all
>> caps is universally considered "shouting" in newsgroups and chat
>> rooms.
>>
>> 4. HOW MANY POEMS SHOULD I POST AT A TIME?
>> While there is no limit to the number of poems you can post at a
>> sitting, people are most likely to read and respond to your poem if
>> you post no more than two or three at a time. And as mentioned above,
>> since there are many poems posted each day, a shorter work is more
>> likely to receive comments.
>>
>> 5. WHAT KIND OF HEADER SHOULD I USE?
>> Use the title of the poem, if it has one. If you can't decide on a
>> title, try a header like: "Need a Title..." to let the reader know
>> you'd appreciate comments on that subject. If it is your first
>> poem-post, it is fine to use the header "First Poem" or "First Post".
>> Do not use headers designed strictly to get attention, and it is
>> preferable not to use headers that have nothing to do with your poem.
>>
>> 6. DO I HAVE TO HAVE A TITLE FOR MY POEM?
>> Not necessarily - see #5.
>>
>> 7. DO I HAVE TO WRITE A CERTAIN KIND OF POETRY?
>> AAPC has poets who use all forms and styles of poetry. The group
>> includes but is not limited to free verse, tanka, haiku, sonnet,
>> sestina.... Feel free to use the poetic form you are most comfortable
>> with, or to post experiments in forms. There are several poets who are
>> quite knowledgeable and can help you with the rules of certain poetic
>> forms.
>>
>> 8. WHAT IF I DON'T GET ANY COMMENTS?
>> There could be several reasons for the lack of comments. Most likely
>> it is because the group is following the old rule: "If you can't say
>> nothin' nice, don't say nothin' at all." The readers might not have
>> understood your poem or liked it. Sometimes posts are ignored because
>> of too much bad spelling, grammar or punctuation, which can distract
>> the reader from the content of the poem and make it frustrating to get
>> through.
>> Check your post again; look for typos, correct any errors that you
>> find, and repost it in a few days with the note that it has been
>> revised. It is an (until now) unspoken rule, though, that it is best
>> to read the group for a few days, contribute some comments of your
>> own, then post your poem once people have noticed you and gotten to
>> know you. Many readers are more comfortable commenting when they've
>> seen you around for awhile and know that you are interested in what
>> they have to say. Also, consider the length of your post. Since there
>> are many poems posted every day, a shorter work is more likely to
>> receive comments.
>>
>> 9. SHOULD I RESPOND TO THE COMMENTS I RECEIVE?
>> Definitely! Even if you don't agree with the comment, it is a courtesy
>> to make a brief response to show you appreciated the time taken to
>> read and reply to your poem. If you repeatedly do not respond to
>> comments on your work, you may find that readers stop commenting
>> altogether.
>>
>> 10. WHEN AND HOW SHOULD I COMMENT ON OTHER PEOPLE'S POSTS?
>> All posts are open to comments. Feel free to point out what
>> specifically you liked about the poem: what lines, images, words did
>> you find particularly interesting or captivating? At the same time,
>> you can also point out any changes you feel might enhance the poem. If
>> you feel a word in a certain place is awkward, feel free to comment on
>> it and suggest a suitable replacement word if you can. It isn't
>> necessary to give a detailed commentary on each poem, though; in
>> general, the poet will appreciate knowing you read the poem, so a few
>> words to indicate you read and enjoyed it are always nice.
>>
>> 11. IS IT OK TO EMAIL MY COMMENTS DIRECTLY TO THE POET?
>> This is usually a matter of personal preference. If you have become
>> familiar with the poet through other posts to the newsgroup, it is
>> generally acceptable. If you do not know the person, they may ignore
>> your email, so it is preferable to post to the group.
>>
>> 12. CAN I REWRITE SOMEONE'S POEM FOR THEM?
>> If you feel comfortable doing so, the poet will usually appreciate the
>> effort involved. Rewriting sections or giving comments on specific
>> lines are welcome as well.
>>
>> 13. DO YOU HAVE IRC CHATS OR OTHER SCHEDULED GATHERINGS?
>> Not as of this writing (February 1999). There is a semi-official AAPC
>> chat room but it has never been used for a formal AAPC chat. There has
>> also been some banter on having a picnic in the summer of 1999, but no
>> volunteer hosts as of yet.
>>
>> 14. ARE THERE ANY AAPC-RELATED WEB SITES?
>> Many of the poets have their own sites, and most list them in their
>> signature files or post notices of updates to the newsgroup.
>>
>> 15. ARE THERE ANY PUBLISHED / FAMOUS / INFAMOUS POETS IN THE GROUP?
>> Depends on who you ask! The vast majority of the poets have had some
>> of their work published. Some are published widely in anthologies and
>> well-respected poetry journals. No one has made a million from their
>> poetry, but we have our suspicions on who will be famous someday.
>>
>> 16. DO POETRY EDITORS READ THE NEWSGROUP?
>> Some participants are editors of poetry journals, both on-line and
>> print. Quite possibly there are other editors who "lurk" (read but
>> don't post).
>>
>> 17. MIGHT I BE OFFERED A BOOK CONTRACT BY POSTING MY POETRY HERE?
>> Not likely. If you are, be very suspicious of it.
>>
>> 18. WHAT IS CONSIDERED "OFF-TOPIC"?
>> Poets by their nature enjoy tangents. You'll see a lot of threads
>> beginning with a poem and going off in a sometimes bizarre, completely
>> unrelated direction.
>> By and large, keep your original posts (not part of an existing
>> thread) limited to your own poetry, or questions about poetry.
>>
>> 19. DO I HAVE TO USE MY REAL NAME?
>> Internet handles are okay, many regulars use them. To build
>> familiarity, stick to the same one, or use your real name.
>>
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