Re: George Dance's Trusted Source and Only Friend rates his poetry

> Will-Dockery wrote:
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>> George J. Dance wrote:
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>>> MMP aka 'HarryLime' aka 'Michael Pendragon' aka 'Coco DeSockmonkey' aka 'One Small Voice', etc. wrote:
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>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
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>>>>> Will-Dockery wrote:
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>>>>>> Michael Pendragon wrote:
>>>>>> George J. Dance’s poetry rates roughly a 3.5 out of 10 from a traditional literary criticism perspective, reflecting its nature as informal, self-published digital verse rather than canonical literature.Context and StylePlatform: George J. Dance is a Toronto-based independent writer known for maintaining online spaces like Penny's Poetry Pages Wiki and publishing collections like Doggerel, and other Doggerel.Content: His writing leans heavily into conversational commentary, political observation, and light verse (as the title Doggerel self-acknowledges).Critical BreakdownTechnical Craft (3/10): The verse often lacks the tight meter, rich figurative language, and structural ambition expected of high-literary poetry, frequently reading more like journal entries or prose chopped into line breaks.Originality and Voice (4/10): While sincere and unpretentious, the themes are largely derivative of everyday political blogging and internet-era musings rather than breaking new stylistic ground.Authenticity of Purpose (5/10): The work scores higher if judged not as high art, but as a transparent, niche digital archive of personal and political commentary shared freely online.
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>>>>>> By comparison, the Trusted Source gave Will Dockery a 6 out of 10.  It gave me a 6 out of 10 as well (I'm considering cutting my throat)... but hey, at least I scored almost twice as high as Dunce!
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>>>>> Ni surprise we would turn out to be on comparable levels.
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>>>>> You always do tend to overrate yourself, Harry.
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>>>>> 😏
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>>>> *Crickets and cicadas*
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>>>> MMP aka 'HarryLime' aka 'Michael Pendragon' aka 'Coco DeSockmonkey' aka 'One Small Voice', etc. wrote:
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>>>> Based on competence alone, I should score much higher than the Donkey.  My poetry is grammatically correct, written in complete sentences, doesn't mix tenses, and doesn't use Donkeyisms (like looking *down* at the street from a first floor apartment window).
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>>> Take it up with your fake "trusted source" - it gave you that rating, not me.
>>> I neither read nor comment on your poetry, for good reason, as you know.
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>>>> However, I had asked AI to rate each of us as poets based on a scale of 1 to 10.  I didn't provide individual examples of poetry for it to judge.  So AI searched for posts *about* each of us in order to answer my question.  And most of the information about us is right here at AAPC.  IOW AI is basically taking the positive and negative comments posted here, and averaging them out.
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>> All of Will's posted poetry, and all of your posted poetry, is still online. Why
>> would your AI rate it based on "comments *about each of us" rather than
>> reading the poetry itself? Unless of fourse you asked it to; but why would
>> you ask anyone (human or AI) to rate anyone's poetry based on "comments"
>> about it rather than reading the poetry itself? Is that how you rate poetry?
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> True, in fact, the best way to get feedback from the artificial intelligence is probably to give it individual poems, and let the bot focus on just the poetry, definitely not a lot of Usenet comments.




As I just finished explaining to Dunce, I don't need AI, or anyone else, to rate my poetry.

I like it.  That's all that matters.

I'm sure that you feel the same way about yours.

I wanted to know how each of us is perceived by AI (not comments by others, which AI used anyway), but by an impartial bot evaluating such factors as how well known we are, how successful, how respected, etc.

AI considers us both to be "niche" poets -- appealing to only a very small, highly specific audience -- and pretty much concluded that whatever flaws or merits our work may have would have no bearing on our popularity within our given niche.

To state it more bluntly, AI considers us both to be absolute nobodies whose poetry is only read by a small group of friends. 


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