Re: Woolsey's new book

On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 8:58:32 PM UTC-6, Anthony Marsh wrote:
> On 2/27/2021 8:13 AM, Pamela Brown wrote: 
> > On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 4:09:32 PM UTC-6, Anthony Marsh wrote: 
> >> On 2/24/2021 5:53 AM, Pamela Brown wrote: 
> >>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 7:45:13 PM UTC-6, Steve M. Galbraith wrote: 
> >>>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 1:03:40 PM UTC-5, hrtshpdbox wrote: 
> >>>>> I read this group through Google, so probably get a delay, but I haven't 
> >>>>> seen anything here on this book that alleges that Khruschev, perhaps 
> >>>>> personally, asked Oswald to kill JFK (then changed his mind, but Oswald 
> >>>>> followed through anyway). I'm thinking I've heard Woolsey is a bit 
> >>>>> unhinged (but, again, don't see much on Woolsey here, even in past 
> >>>>> comments). Anything purportedly good and/or useful in the new book? 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Operation-Dragon-Inside-Kremlins-America/dp/1641771453/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=woolsey&qid=1614095142&rnid=2941120011&s=books&sr=1-1 
> >>>> Pacepa, who co-wrote the book, has been around for a long time suggesting 
> >>>> such a theory. It makes no sense to me on any level. Khrushchev wrote in 
> >>>> his autobiography that he initially viewed Kennedy as "smart but weak" and 
> >>>> that he, Khrushchev, could take advantage of him. Recall JFK's account of 
> >>>> the Vienna Summit? Khrushchev said he was more worried about the hawks in 
> >>>> the military then he was with Kennedy. He even said to JFK - whether it 
> >>>> was true or not - that he wanted JFK to defeat Nixon and that he made a 
> >>>> deliberate decision to be quiet, e.g., not release U-2 pilot Gary Powers, 
> >>>> so as to help JFK win. So why try to eliminate JFK? For what benefit? 
> >>>> 
> >>>> The Khrushchev story about "helping" JFK get elected is here: 
> >>>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/06/this-kremlin-leader-bragged 
> >>>> -about-tipping-a-u-s-presidential-election/ 
> >>> 
> >>> True, but wasn't it Kruschev who boasted "we will bury you?" 
> >>> 
> >> Da. Regardless of who was President. 
> >> Here's a thought experiment for you. 
> >> Would there even be any way that there needed to be a Cuban Missile 
> >> Crisis if Nixon had been President? If so, would have it ended in WWIII? 
> > 
> > I think that's a valid question, even though we can only 'answer' it in 
> > the abstract. I doubt that there would have been a Cuban Missile Crisis if 
> > Nixon were President, because he would have known what was in the works 
> > and likely gone along with it. That said, if the Bay of Pigs invasion had 
> > succeeded, would the USSR have retaliated? If so, we could have had WWIII. 
> >
> Yes, I can't prove it, but I think the Bay of Pigs invasionm would have 
> been successul under Nixon. Bolder, with US forces.

I agree.