Re: Question for John McAdams

On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 2:48:31 AM UTC+1, John McAdams wrote:
> On 10 Mar 2021 22:21:40 -0000, "Glenn V." <[email protected]> wrote: 
> 
> >On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 3:15:07 PM UTC+1, John McAdams wrote: 
> >> On 3 Mar 2021 05:12:05 -0000, "Glenn V." <[email protected]> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> >On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 1:01:59 AM UTC+1, x wrote: 
> >> >> On 3/1/2021 6:54 PM, Glenn V. wrote: 
> >> >> > On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 3:01:42 PM UTC+1, John McAdams wrote: 
> >> >> >> On 25 Feb 2021 03:03:03 -0000, BT George <[email protected]> 
> >> >> 
> >> > 
> >> >
> >> Don't you understand that any bill that seeks election security is 
> >> going to be *claimed* to target minority voters? 
> >> 
> >> Are "minority voters" so lazy and stupid they can't abide by fair 
> >> rules? 
> >> 
> >> If you believe that, you are racist against blacks, in addition to 
> >> being racist toward white males. 
> >> >Stacey Abrams ten year long efforts – among other things - to get 
> >> >people of minorities to vote, paid off. And now the republicans in Georgia 
> >> >have realized they are at risk of losing more elections moving forward to 
> >> >the midterms, if nothing is done. And yes Brock, I do very much understand 
> >> >how significant what happened in Georgia really is. This was a true earth 
> >> >quake in American politics, losing to the state to Biden and losing the 
> >> >two senate seats. And that's exactly why it's a very good example to 
> >> >understand what the republicans are now up to. Hundreds and hundreds of 
> >> >bills all over the US with one thing in common, to restrict voting. And 
> >> >this, my friend, is a fact. 
> >> > 
> >> You mean bills to require voter ID, such as Sweden has? 
> >> 
> >> And bills to outlaw mail-in voting, which is illegal in Sweden? 
> >> >So Brock. I brought Georgia up early in this thread. No comments, so far. 
> >> That is simply untrue. 
> >> >Which speaks volumes. I understand that most here would much more like to 
> >> >discuss elections in Sweden than defending the indefensible, of which 
> >> >these v oter restriction proposals in Georgia are a good example, a very 
> >> >good example. 
> >> > 
> >> Discussing Sweden shows your double standard. 
> >> >And of course, the lawyer in the Supreme Court today, should we perhaps 
> >> >assume he's out of business with the republicans, shortly? 
> >> Huh? 
> >>
> >John, 
> > 
> >I'd expected more from you. Much more. Your patronizing debate style 
> >doesn't do you any favors, in my opinion.

> Do you understand the irony of that comment, coming in a patronizing 
> post by you?

Not at all, but you don't understand - behind all of those ridiculous 
attachments you have to arguments you don't like. That's not the man I 
read, and liked based on his arguments 15 years ago about the JFK 
assassination. Back then you always had valid arguments.

> >The way you just simply attack, 
> >on a personal basis, those who don't agree with you, is remarkably 
> >juvenile, being a professor and all. And no, I'm not neck deep into 
> >anything at all that *you* understand. The GOP is, right now. 
> >
> You are neck deep in identity politics, playing the race card 
> constantly.
> >However, I'm very, very proud of never being called an ultraconservative 
> >reality denier.
> Have you been called an ultra leftist reality denier?

Never. Even from my political opponents, and as much of a surprise as it 
may be to you, not even about this crap you suggested where I have my 
head.

> >Moreover, I'll simply watch what happens in the US as far 
> >as voter suppression, onwards. Then we'll see who can look back at this 
> >thread with his head held high. 
> >
> The term "voter suppression" begs the question. You should know more 
> logic than that.

I do - quit questioning my knowledge. You on the other hand, should not 
even question others about this, but instead of dodging questions, answer 
them.

> >The GOP is on a slippery slope, depending on excluding as many as possible 
> >from voting, instead of realizing the simple fact that they should think 
> >twice about their policies in certain areas,
> Like what?

Ask them!

> >instead of trying desperately 
> >to apply various shortcuts in order to gain power and the trust of the US 
> >people. The demographic changes in the US will, by necessity, make the GOP 
> >choose their way. 
> >
> OIC. "People of color" are going to take over, and consign the GOP to 
> oblivion. 

No, the *minorities* (the ones you don't seem to believe exists) that the 
GOP refuses to acknowledge - will destroy the GOP. if they continue on 
this path.

> 
> In the first place, the youngest cohort of white voters went for Trump 
> in 2020. 

Yes, exactly. And what other cohorts that demographics are pointing to as 
the growing ones is that minorities, women did not.

> 
> https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/national-results/5 
> 
> In the second place, about 30% of Latino voters went from Trump, and 
> the number will increase as Latinos become more assimilated. `

Yes. Because they were scared shit about the "socialism"  crap. That's 
why. To quote your debate style -*Do you understand *why?

> 
> https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/exit-polls/president/national-results/7 
> 
> Further, the black population is growing slowly, and black fertility 
> is decreasing.

The ^*migration* statistics, and that of *all minorites* says the opposite.

> >That is, certainly, if Trump long before then hasn't destroyed the GOP and 
> >the conservative movement in the US. 
> >
> What Trump has done is make the GOP clearly the party that opposed 
> arrogant elites. Like the tech giants that censor content they don't 
> like.

What an embarrassing statement, John. Read up on things before you utter 
anything on this subject. Whether the elites are GOP or DNC I will leave 
out, both probably. But as far as Trump, for heavens sake *do you not 
understand* that the elites are his best friends? Those zero. point one 
percent who gained 90 percent of his tax cuts?  Trump doesn't give a s**t 
about his "base. Right now his about to milk them of millions of dollars 
to a new fund. He's a grifter, John. Nothing else.

Read up, John, You are out of touch.

My God. John. What you are defending is going to end up on the ash heap of 
history. I would have never concluded this about you. This really isn't 
about votes, is it?

> 
> I'm guessing you like Facebook and Twitter banning Trump. 

Here we go again with the ridiculous patronizing. Again, and again you do 
this, John. That's the really sad part of this discussion. I would have 
thought much better of you. The truth is that some of those you can't 
speak to in the JFK assassination, I can - and I do, they've all rejected 
you because of exactly what I've said here: learn, do not patronize people 
left and right, like you do.

We're friends on FB, at your request. You know nothing about me, my 
education, my experiences or anything else. You should learn how to treat 
people who are not professors, and who are not a**holes.

So let me give you a taste, John. I'm an economist by profession, having 
studied economics, political science and business administration for 
almost five years All the years I've spent in both government and private 
sector positions has been a fruitful experience, I don't degrade people 
the way you do, constantly.

Simply speaking, I don't take this patronizing shit from you, shape up!

I demand respect from you, and the way you are dealing with me in this 
thread, is not that of respect.

> 
> And your time discussing voting in the US has been embarrassing, since 
> you are attacking US Republicans for: 
> 
> 1.) wanting to ban mail-in voting. 
> 2.) wanting voter ID 
> 3.) wanting to ban ballot harvesting 

They do. Look simply at the H.R.1 (I think the number is) which is going 
through congress as we speak. Period.

> 
> All of which would make US elections more like Sweden! 

Exactly. And we have no voter irregularities, no voter fraud. Again - 
PERIOD. "Do you understand" - to quote yourself? Spend the resources to 
make this happen, is the answer you don't want do hear - or *understand*?

"If it ain't a problem, don't fix it". Remember?

- Make supporting voter lines in Georgia with food illegal, and make 
  voting polls fewer and less frequent?

Wake up, John. Your dinosaur views are gone help no one. Not you, not the 
GOP and not real conservatives. Those real conservatives are going to 
learn from what you are defending. They will have to.

> 
> .John 
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