Re: Was. W.W. Scoggins the only witness at 10th and Patton who actually

On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 6:11:48 AM UTC-8, John Corbett wrote:
> On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:10:33 PM UTC-5, John Corbett wrote: 
> > On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 8:58:42 AM UTC-5, donald willis wrote: 
> > > On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:45:58 PM UTC-8, John Corbett wrote: 
> > > > On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:18:05 PM UTC-5, donald willis wrote: 
> > > > > On Saturday, February 27, 2021 at 6:58:20 AM UTC-8, John Corbett wrote: 
> > > > > > On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 8:29:23 PM UTC-5, donald willis wrote: 
> > > > > > > On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 6:13:24 PM UTC-8, John Corbett wrote: 
> > > > > > > > On Thursday, February 25, 2021 at 12:41:28 PM UTC-5, donald willis wrote: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > The shells were SAID to have been found "some distance away". Don't think 
> > > > > > > > > they really were.... 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > They were said to have been found some distance away because the were 
> > > > > > > > found some distance away. You have no evidence to the contrary. You just 
> > > > > > > > invented this cockamamie story out of thin air. 
> > > > > > > The "thin air" of Commission testimony. At least 8 times, Virginia Davis 
> > > > > > > testified that they called the cops, THEN saw the man with the gun. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Pure nonsense. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Pure Commission testimony. At least I assume you're saying that V. Davis' 
> > > > > insistence that they called the cops first is the "nonsense", pure or not. 
> > > > > At least 8 times! 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Mr. BELIN. Now you heard the shots. You heard, you say, the second shot 
> > > > > > and then what did you do? 
> > > > > > Mrs. DAVIS. We was already up. We ran to the door. 
> > > > > > Mr. BELIN. By we, who do you mean? 
> > > > > > Mrs. DAVIS. Jeanette and I. 
> > > > > > Mr. BELIN. You went to which door? 
> > > > > > Mrs. DAVIS. The front door. 
> > > > > > Mr. BELIN. That would be the front of the house facing East 10th Street? 
> > > > > > Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir. 
> > > > > > Mr. BELIN. What did you do when you got to the door? 
> > > > > > Mrs. DAVIS. Mrs. Markham was standing at the tree. 
> > > > > > Mr. BELIN. If we can picture the street intersection, was she standing 
> > > > > > in the middle of the street or on the sidewalk? 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > They went to the door first. They would have no reason to call the cops 
> > > > > > until they went to the door and saw and heard Markham screaming. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Talk to Virginia D. re "reason".... 
> > > > > 
> > > > I quoted WC testimony to support my contention. It's a shame you can't do 
> > > > the same. 
> > > You didn't quote the 7 or 8 times that Virginia Davis testified that the 
> > > Davises called the cops BEFORE they saw the suspect! I can do that if 
> > > you don't believe me.... 
> > > 
> > Why don't you do that?
> Don? Did you forget again?

Your wish is my command:

Okay, here are Virginia Davis's multiple takes on the chronology of the 
phone call, suspect sighting:
"Mrs. DAVIS. When Mrs. Markham was standing across the street hollering,
she told us to call the police, so Jeanette and I went in there, and 
Jeanette called
the police and we went back and he was cutting across our yard, and we gave
him time to go on because we were afraid he might shoot us." (v6p458)
So that's #1: make phone call, THEN spot suspect.

"Mr. BELIN. Did you call the police before or after you saw him cut across
your yard?
Mrs. DAVIS. Before."  (p458)
#2:  again, call then witness

"Mrs. DAVIS. Well, we just went out, because we had already called the 
police,
notified them, and we went out in the yard." (p460)
#3:  again, call then witness

"Mr. BELIN. You notified the police. Let me ask you this. Did you notify
the police before or after you saw the boy with the gun?
Mrs. DAVIS. Let’s see, I think it was before." (p460)
#4: again, call first

"Mr. BELIN. When you say before, what do you mean?
Mrs. DAVIS. Well, before we saw the boy." (p460)
#5: again, call first

"Mr. BELIN. Before you saw the boy you notified the police?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir." (p460)
#6:  called cops first

Mr. BELIN. Well, let me try and reconstruct your actions then.
You heard the shots?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. You ran to the door?
Mr. BELIN. What did you see when you got to the door?
Mrs. DAVIS. Well, we just saw, you know, the police car parked down there
and we wondered what was going on, so we heard Mrs. Markham across the
street calling.
Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do?
Mrs. DAVIS. Well, she told us to call the police, well, so we went to the 
house.
We was already in the house, and we went to the phone and called the police.
Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do? 
Mrs. DAVIS. Then we went back to the front door.
Mr. BEI.IN. Then what did you do?
Mrs. DAVIS. We saw the boy cutting across the street. (pp460-461)
#7:  call first, suspect 2nd

"Mr. BELIN. Now, Mrs. Davis, on this statement, Virginia Davis Deposition
Exhibit 2, it states that “We heard a shot and then another shot and ran to
side door at Patton Street.” You say that should have been the front door?
Mrs. DAVIS. That was supposed to be the front door.
Mr. BELIN. You say, “I saw the boy cutting across our yard and he was
unloading his gun. We walked outside and a woman was hollering, ‘he’s dead,
he’s shot’.” “This woman told Jeanette to call the police and she did.”
Now according to this statement, you saw the man cutting across your yard
before you called the police?
Mrs. DAVIS:  No, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Now this statement is wrong, is that correct?
Mrs. DAVIS. That’s right." (p464)
#8:  "Wrong" is "right"!

Mr. Belin.  You called the police, and then you went back outside the house
and saw the boy cutting across the yard?
Mrs. DAVIS. That’s right.
Mr. BELIN. That is your statement now?
Mr. BELIN. It is your testimony now, as I understand it, that you went back
in the house and you called the police, and then you went back outside the house
and saw the boy cutting across the yard?
Mrs. DAVIS. That’s right.
Mr. BELIN. That is your statement now?
Mrs. DAVIS. Yes." (p464)
#9:  call first, witness 2nd

So, nine times Virginia D testified that they called the cops, and then 
and only then saw the suspect.  Either that's true, or she's such a 
confused witness that she cancels herself out.

dcw