Re: Capitol Mob - "Pretty Normal People"

On Monday, March 22, 2021 at 6:38:31 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
> On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 4:43:56 PM UTC-5, John Corbett wrote: 
> > On Sunday, March 7, 2021 at 12:34:41 PM UTC-5, Bud wrote: 
> > > On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 3:56:46 PM UTC-5, John Corbett wrote: 
> > > > On Saturday, March 6, 2021 at 12:55:13 PM UTC-5, Bud wrote: 
> > > > > On Friday, March 5, 2021 at 9:06:54 PM UTC-5, ajohnstone wrote: 
> > > > > > >I suppose I have an advantage over you ... He wasn`t killed at the riot. 
> > > > > > >He texted his brother that the only thing that happened to him was that 
> > > > > > >he was hit by some bear spray. He went back to the precinct and had a 
> > > > > > >heart attack. 
> > > > > > Sorry to rain on your parade but i had already linked to this incident in 
> > > > > > an earlier post 
> > > > > I brought it up three weeks ago over in the nuthouse in a post to Don 
> > > > > Willis. He actually believes what the mainstream media tells him. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/wudxrx_FIjo/m/8UyZ1ybLBQAJ 
> > > > > > https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-false-and-exaggerated-claims 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The author went into some detail about the Sicknick death and explained 
> > > > > > the motive behind the deliberate misrepresentation. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "...Without Sicknick having his skull bashed in with a fire extinguisher, 
> > > > > > there were no deaths that day that could be attributed to deliberate 
> > > > > > violence by pro-Trump protesters..." 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You are not the only one who accesses information from sources other than 
> > > > > > the mainstream media. 
> > > > > You quoted me out of context. What I said was... 
> > > > > "I suppose I have an advantage over you because I never believed anything 
> > > > > the Democrats or the mainstream media had to say about the event." 
> > > > > I don`t believe anything they say unless I can corroborate it myself 
> > > > > using sources I trust. They don`t have zero credibility, they are in the 
> > > > > red. The idea that five people died as a result of the Capitol incident 
> > > > > was never the default that needed to be disproven with me. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Do you think that if a cop went back to his precinct after battling BLM 
> > > > > rioters and died of a stroke you would have heard about it? Other than Fox 
> > > > > news the MSM is all spin, lies and propaganda for the Democratic Party. 
> > > > > And liberals seem to think that holding Fox as an exception is 
> > > > > hypocritical, but not when they expose lies like this cop being killed by 
> > > > > violent Trump supporters. When they tell the truth and expose lies that 
> > > > > gains them credibility in my eyes, leftists seem to prefer the lies they 
> > > > > are told, they tenaciously hold onto these false narratives. 
> > > > It's a sad commentary on the mainstream media that we can't take their 
> > > > word for ANYTHING. How can I trust people to accurately report the news 
> > > > when they have such an obvious bias and agenda. Even if they are telling 
> > > > me the truth, they are only telling half of it, the half they won't me to 
> > > > know. 
> > > > 
> > > > It is an absolute disgrace that they ran with the story for weeks that a 
> > > > Capitol cop had been murdered during the riot and when they finally did 
> > > > fess up, they did so without a hint of remorse. Most of the people who 
> > > > control the information that the public is receiving are complete scumbags 
> > > > who don't deserve an ounce of respect and most people don't give them any. 
> > > > I have more respect for drug dealers, pimps, and whores than I do for the 
> > > > most of the people that report the news. At least they are giving people 
> > > > what they pay for. 
> > > This new liberalism seems totally unprincipled to me, it seems very "the 
> > > end justifies the means", if they can fib or spin information it is ok if 
> > > it helps save the planet (in their eyes) or helps fight racism (in their 
> > > eyes). Since all the people at the Capitol event are convicted racists in 
> > > the eyes of the left anything done to them is fine. 
> > > 
> > > I generally avoid the MSM, but when I sign out of my email on AOL there 
> > > are usually some headlines and I might click on one if the headline baits 
> > > me. 
> > > 
> > That's pretty much how I stay current. My homepage brings up headlines 
> > froa variety of sources. Mostly liberal ones but a few conservative sites. 
> > The sad thing is NOBODY is reporting straight news any more. I quit 
> > subscribing to the Columbus Dispatch years ago. I can't remember the last 
> > time I watched the nightly news on any of the networks. It used to be I 
> > couldn't watch MSNBC or CNN for more than 30 seconds before I was ready to 
> > punch somebody in the mouth but I've moved beyond that. Now I want to 
> > strangle them. 
> > > Today it was this one... 
> > > 
> > > "Fighting Biden virus aid, GOP rekindles Obama-era strategy." 
> > > 
> > > I clicked to find out what "strategy" was being "rekindled" and found 
> > > out the strategy was telling the truth. The first paragraph has this... 
> > > 
> > > "Republicans have one goal for President Joe Biden’s $1.9 
> > > trillion COVID-19 relief package: to erode public support for the rescue 
> > > plan by portraying it as too big, too bloated and too much wasteful public 
> > > spending for a pandemic that’s almost over." 
> > > 
> > > Calling it what it is is portrayed as some ploy to fool the public. 
> > The one thing the MSM can't stand is somebody telling the truth. That's 
> > dirty pool. 
> > > 
> > > https://www.aol.com/news/fighting-biden-virus-aid-gop-052006685-125614295.html 
> > > 
> > > A huge chunk of money is going to bail out blue states so they can 
> > > continue to do the things that put them in the red in the first place. 
> > > 
> > > Another headline was about the impending Chauvin trial. There will be 
> > > nationwide riots because, why not? Looting and destruction has been 
> > > decriminalized. The only thing that will stop this from occurring time and 
> > > time again is a zero tolerance policy like that shown with the Capitol 
> > > protests. 
> > > 
> > Last summer the left decided that rioting was a legitimate form of protest 
> > as long as it is the left that is doing the rioting. If the right does it, 
> > it's an insurrection. 
> > > https://www.aol.com/news/minneapolis-prepares-potential-unrest-ahead-110046142.html 
> > > 
> > > You see a lot of talk about emotion in these articles, unfortunately it 
> > > carries no weight in a courtroom (or shouldn`t, anyway). These people are 
> > > bound to be disappointed. 
> > > 
> > > Democrats are always there to throw fuel on the fire... 
> > > 
> > > “We know that this trial is going to reignite the same kind of 
> > > emotional and social response that we saw last summer,” the 
> > > councilman said. 
> > > 
> > > Hilarious that they are afraid that white supremacists are going to show 
> > > up and start trouble. That is the least of their worries. 
> > I think it's going to be very difficult to get a conviction one the murder 
> > charge and some level manslaughter is the likely result with Chauvin 
> > serving no more than a couple of years. A hung jury is a distinct 
> > possibility too. Neither one of those will appease the left and we can 
> > count on renewed rioting, excuse me, I meant renewed mostly peaceful 
> > protests.
> Something new in the Chauvin case. A year almost to the day of the fatal 
> Chauvin police stop Floyd swallowed drugs during a police stop and almost 
> died. The court wasn`t going to allow this, but it seems like the judge 
> changed his mind and is going to allow it. 
> 
> Lawyers discuss it here... 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVIhEsR9GBU

It would seem that is pertinent to the question of the cause of death 
which is central to the case. I still think Chauvin's actions were 
inexcusable but if reasonable doubt can be raised as to thecause of death, 
there shouldn't be a homicide conviction, even for the lesser charge of 
manslaughter.

My hunch is we will get a hung jury. That will probably mean either a plea 
bargain or a retrial and likely another hung jury.