Re: Did the Davises see anyone (other than Mrs. Markham)?

On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 4:11:26 PM UTC-7, John Corbett wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 16, 2021 at 2:16:09 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote: 
> > Speaking of the Davises.... A few curiosities: 
> > 
> > Barbara D testified that a "man was coming across the yard.... First off 
> > [Mrs. Markham] went to screaming before I had paid too much attention to 
> > him, and pointing at him...." (v3p343) 
> > 
> > While Mrs. M herself testified, "He cut across Patton St. like this. 
> > Toward Jefferson. Then he was still in sight WHEN I BEGAN TO SCREAM AND 
> > HOLLER...." (v3) 
> > 
> > If Mrs. M is correct re the point at which she began to scream, then 
> > Barbara D couldn't have seen the suspect while Mrs M was screaming and he 
> > was still in the front yard. 
> > 
> > Another curiosity: Barbara D charts (on CE 534) the path that she says 
> > that the suspect took across the front yard. Note that that path comes 
> > nowhere near the intersection of 10th & Patton. While Mrs. M is famous 
> > for her kitty-korner confrontation with him while he's standing at the 
> > opposite corner of the intersection. 
> > 
> > Virginia D., possibly, reconciles Barbara D & Helen M in her own 
> > testimony: 
> > 
> > Mr. BELIN. Well, let me try and reconstruct your actions then. 
> > You heard the shots? 
> > Mrs. DAVIS. Yes, sir. 
> > Mr. BELIN. You ran to the door? 
> > Mr. BELIN. What did you see when you got to the door? 
> > Mrs. DAVIS. Well, we just saw, you know, the police car parked down there 
> > and we wondered what was going on, so we heard Mrs. Markham across the 
> > street calling. 
> > Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do? 
> > Mrs. DAVIS. Well, she told us to call the police, well, so we went to the 
> > house. 
> > We was already in the house, and we went to the phone and called the 
> > police. (v6p460) 
> > 
> > If we stop right there, Virginia D's testimony makes sense here. She and 
> > Barbara D hear Mrs M telling them to "call the police". And they proceed 
> > to do just that. No mention of Mrs M screaming yet, and no sighting of 
> > the suspect in the yard. She just says to call the police. They do that. 
> > However, Virginia D continues, disastrously: 
> > 
> > Mrs. DAVIS. Well, she told us to call the police, well, so we went to the 
> > house. 
> > We was already in the house, and we went to the phone and called the police. 
> > Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do? 
> > 460 
> > Mrs. DAVIS. Then we went back to the front door. 
> > Mr. BEI.IN. Then what did you do? 
> > Mrs. DAVIS. We saw the boy cutting across the street. 
> > 
> > This v e r y s l o w moving suspect is still in sight AFTER the Davises 
> > call the cops!? That's where Virginia D's testimony goes off the rails 
> > here. Up to that point, she seems to reconcile her testimony with Mrs 
> > M's. Then she has the "boy" still in sight and, for some reason, "cutting 
> > across the street". (This is the only time that either Davis says that 
> > they saw the suspect cross a street.) 
> > 
> > But until this incredible coda, Virginia D paints a believable picture of 
> > the shooting scene: The Davises see and hear Mrs M telling them to call 
> > the police, and they do. Mrs M then picks up the story as the suspect is 
> > running up Patton, and THEN she starts screaming. Again, believable: 
> > She doesn't call attention to herself with screaming until he's trotting 
> > off AWAY from her. 
> >
> Right, Don. Everybody made all this stuff up just to frame poor little Lee 
> Harvey Oswald.

I just realized.  In my post, I did not say that the witnesses--Virginia D 
& Mrs. Markham--were "making up stuff".  I accept their joint story.  
What you write here does not apply to what I wrote here.  It's you who has 
to reject the story!

dcw