Re: In which Sgt. Hill shoots himself in the foot with an automatic

donald willis <[email protected]> 7 Apr 2021 19:26:06 -0000
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On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 8:03:33 PM UTC-7, John Corbett wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 3:40:35 PM UTC-4, donald willis wrote: 
> > In which Sgt. Hill shoots himself in the foot with an automatic 
> > 
> > Witness Domingo Benavides, DPD Patrolman Joe M. Poe, and DPD Sgt. Gerald 
> > Hill were in perfect agreement at the Warren Commission hearings. 
> > 
> > Benavides: "[The suspect] had just got back to the sidewalk when he threw 
> > he first [shell], and when he threw the second one, he had already cut 
> > back into the yard." (v6p450) 
> > 
> > Poe: "[Benavides] told me [the suspect] was running out across this lawn. 
> > He was unloading his pistol as he ran." (v7p68) 
> > 
> > Hill: "Poe showed me a Winston cigarette package that contained three 
> > spent jackets from shells that he said a citizen had pointed out to him 
> > where the suspect had reloaded his gun and dropped these in he grass." 
> > (v7p48-49) So it would seem that the gunman was carrying a revolver: The 
> > shells were manually discarded. 
> > 
> > And yet, at 1:41, Hill radioed that the "shells at the scene indicate that 
> > the suspect is armed with an automatic 38, rather than a pistol." (DPD 
> > radio logs) 
> > 
> > First desperate move: Hill denied, at the Commission hearings, that he was 
> > the one who had sent the transmission: "That probably is R.D. Stringer". 
> > (v7p57) (Stringer was not called to testify.) Second desperate move: And 
> > DPD transcriber Sgt. G.D. Henslee attributed the transmission to 
> > "Westbrook-Batchelor". (v21p397) (Neither officer testified re the 
> > transmission.) Much later, Hill finally took responsibility for it: "In a 
> > 1986 interview, Hill admitted being the cop behind the strange 
> > broadcast...." (With Malice, p260) 
> > 
> > But as far back as 1964, the groundwork was being laid in case future 
> > investigators looked at future transcriptions of the DPD radio logs--for 
> > instance, the August 11, 1964 FBI transcription, which properly appended 
> > "Sergeant G. Hill" to the transmission. Benavides also testified that "One 
> > of [the shells] went down inside of a bush, and the other one was by the 
> > bush"--they were, he says, pretty close together, as shells automatically 
> > ejected would have been. The fact that there were shells on the ground, in 
> > the first place, and, in the second, that they were found near each other, 
> > would indicate, for any future investigation, that they were from an 
> > automatic, and explained the "automatic" on the radio. 
> > 
> > Third desperate move: Supporting this version of the story was also the 
> > fact that Hill supposedly saw, as he testified, only the cigarette 
> > package, and not the shells inside it. Thus the only possible explanation 
> > of that "automatic" seemed to be that the shells were found (a) on the 
> > ground and (b) close together. The shells themselves, supposedly, then, 
> > did not figure in the 1:41 transmission. Hill hadn't seen them. 
> > 
> > Hill and his transmission were insulated by Benavides' testimony, by 
> > Henslee's false transcription, and by the ingenious employment of the 
> > cigarette package. How could he possibly be undone? How? Well, he done 
> > undid himself. 
> > 
> > "Asked how he determined that the shells were 38 caliber, Hill replied, 
> > 'You can tell that from the shell. Thirty-eight's stamped on the bottom of 
> > it. I looked on the bottom'." (With Malice p261, author's 1986 interview 
> > of Hill) All that insulation, up in smoke. All three layers of separation 
> > between Hill and the shells--poof! 
> > 
> > But why was such care taken to separate Hill from shells? Dale Myers goes 
> > on to explain: "Hill's explanation compounds the problem. For if true, 
> > Hill would have seen additional stamp impressions. Thirty-eight automatic 
> > cartridges are traditionally marked, '38 AUTO'...." (p261) 
> > 
> > Myers then goes on to distract his readers from the "38" issue by 
> > returning to the relatively simple "automatic" issue: "There is no 
> > indication that Hill ever studied the shells to the degree that his later 
> > claims suggest. Hill's explanation that the radio transmission describing 
> > the shells as "automatics" was based on an incorrect assumption is 
> > probably very close to the truth." (p261) 
> > 
> > In other words, Myers has no explanation, other than Hill's, for the "38". 
> > He does not even attempt one. His only recourse is to distract, distract. 
> > So, as of now, Hill's explanation--the only one we have, so far, in some 
> > 57 yea rs--stands: He saw "38" "on the bottom" of the shells. His three 
> > layers of separation couldn't keep him from "38 AUTO".... 
> >
> All you have demonstrated is that Hill made a mistake in assuming the 
> gunman had fired an automatic and then tried to cover up his mistake. 
> People do that all the time. The fact that every witness who observed the 
> gunman as he passed from the front yard to the side yard said he was 
> unloading the shells as he went indicates the gun wasn't an automatic. He 
> wouldn't have to unload shells from an automatic. They eject themselves 
> and they do that at the location the gun is fired. They would not have 
> landed at the location whether the shells were found. ALL the eyewitnesses 
> indicated the gunman had a revolver and all the recovered shells were 
> fired by Oswald's revolver yet you choose to discard all of that and 
> fixate instead on an erroneous radio transmission by Hill. Once again, you 
> focus on all the wrong things.

And once again you completely ignore what I actually wrote.  In fact, 
nothing you say indicates that you even read the post.  Just brought out 
the old rubber stamp again....

dcw