Re: Glenn V. Fell for Lies About Georgia Voting Law

On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 5:03:29 AM UTC+2, Bud wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021 at 3:40:38 PM UTC-4, Glenn V. wrote: 
> > On Saturday, April 3, 2021 at 2:14:24 AM UTC+2, John McAdams wrote: 
> > > https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/30/biden-falsely-claims-new-georgia-law-ends-voting-hours-early/ 
> > > 
> > > .John 
> > > ------------------------------- 
> > > http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm 
> > The only one who's got suckered into anything is you, John. Read up on 
> > exactly what is in that bill in Georgia. Try to understand, for example, 
> > what it means that Raffenspergers office is taken out of the process and 
> > pay attention to how it will be done in the future.
> Make your arguments, stop alluding to things you don`t show.
> > Btw, what Trump said about Charlottesville was of course directed to the 
> > same people he declared he "loved", on January 6th. The white 
> > supremacists; the Proud Boys and the rest of the insurrectionists at the 
> > Capitolium. As you well know, some of those he earlier had told to "stand 
> > down, stand by". They know exactly how to read Trump - and Trump knows 
> > exactly how to address them. You should stop playing games about this.
> You should stop pretending that these fringe groups represent the core 
> of Trump`s support.
> > No GOP representative of Congress has yet answered why 360 bills are now 
> > being introduced by the GOP around the US,
> I can. Millions of Americans have expressed the idea that they aren`t 
> confident that the election was conducted fairly. 
> 
> https://americasfreedomfighters.com/bombshell-new-poll/
> >after an election where no 
> > voter fraud happened anywhere, of any scale whatsoever.
> There has never been a political election in this country of any size 
> where there was no voter fraud.
> > No fraud, no 
> > irregularities, no matter how many times you repeat those lies.
> The whole election was irregular.
> > Btw, John 
> > are you defending the Big Lie? You know, the one that says the election 
> > "was stolen"? 
> > 
> > You know, the one that separates authoritarians and fascists from true 
> > democrats? Do you, or anyone else here support the Big Lie? The one, also, 
> > that so many scared GOP members of Congress support? Those scared of 
> > Donald Trump - who doesn't give a damn about democracy?
> Good to see you on board with democracy. Since the Georgia Voting Bill 
> was the product of democracy you should have no complaints.
> > But there are indeed quite a few ex-GOP conservatives, true defenders of 
> > democracy, who have spoken out about what is going on in the US. 
> > 
> > Max Boot, just yesterday:
> Who?
> > "In Georgia, Delta Air Lines issued a statement opposing a package of 
> > voting rules that, among other things, imposes new barriers to voting by 
> > mail, eliminates mobile voting centers, puts a cap on the number of drop 
> > boxes and shortens the time to return absentee ballots.
> Has it been shown that any of these things cause undue hardship? 
> 
> Interesting that the left will soon be trying to implement something 
> where you have to show you`ve been vaccinated to do certain things (like 
> get on Delta planes). You will have to show something in order to board a 
> plane, but they don`t want anyone to have to show something to vote.
> > Republicans 
> > retaliated. Now, when businesses oppose those efforts and exercise their 
> > First Amendment rights, which Republicans ordinarily consider 
> > “fundamental” and worthy of protection, they seek to use 
> > the power of the government to punish those whose speech they dislike. It 
> > seems they do not like the First Amendment any more than the 14th or the 
> > 15th when it comes to robust access to the ballot for voters they suspect 
> > will support their opponents. Their march to bully-boy authoritarianism 
> > continues as they prove once again that they are no friends of 
> > multiracial, robust democracy."
> Left wing groups tried to pressure Coca-Cola to come out against this 
> bill. Apparently the left is no friend to democracy.
> > Yes, those republicans retaliated, for one reason alone. They are all 
> > scared sh*t of Donald Trump, these cowards.
> They are scared of the millions of people who support Trump. As well 
> they should be.
> > I'm happy to provide these 
> > lists of ex-GOP republicans, who have all left since they understand what 
> > an incredibly dangerous path the GOP has entered, since the day they all 
> > bowed down to Donald Trumps authoritarian idiocy: 
> > 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Trump_movement 
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Republicans_who_opposed_the_Donald_Trump_2016_presidential_campaign 
> > 
> > Someone summed it up quite brilliant: 
> > 
> > "Republicans will be anti-corporate in word, pro-billionaire in deed;
> If the Democrats are so anti-billionaire, why are there so many 
> billionaires working on their behalf? Why does Big Tech act on behalf of 
> the left? Why is the mainstream media nothing but a propaganda arm of the 
> Democratic Party?
> > blue-collar on the airwaves, protective of offshore tax shelters in 
> > practice; the party of law and order
> How many police unions came out for Biden?
> >- that insists 2020 was stolen." 
> > 
> > This time US democracy was saved by the Judiciary.
> The Supreme Court refused to hear the case.
> > Now it's time for you, 
> > Bud and the rest to make a choice. Either you continue to walk into the 
> > future head deep in the past, b*tt first. Or you start defending US 
> > democracy.
> All those 360 GOP bills you mentioned are part of the democratic 
> process. Why are you so anti-democratic?
> >Not a right/left question. No joke. Not a 
> > petty-winning-arguments-in-a-debate thing. 
> > 
> > It's a question of saving US democracy.
> It was a question of saving America. The question has been answered (for 
> now), America is not to be saved, it is to be reshaped into a leftists 
> vision that is doomed to fail.
> >Pretty soon it just might be too 
> > late.

Thanks, Bud.

Thanks for signing off on what to me was clear long ago. You don't give a 
shit about democracy, which really was never that hard to figure out.