Re: Glenn V. Fell for Lies About Georgia Voting Law

 It's Glenn's way or the highway, Bud. Glenn (from Sweden? Am I right about=
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> that?) apparently has this messy democracy thingy figured out, Bud, and=
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> guess what? Your views are out with Glenn. You don't care about democracy=
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> Glenn does. Off to the reeducation camp for Bud, forced to read Max Boot=
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> books for 25 years.=20
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> *IF* the 2020 election WAS crooked in some way, it's the Glenns of the=20
> world--who care about democracy more than you or I--who threw it. They ha=
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> to burn down the village to save it.

Amazing how deliberate BS always pops up when authoritarians show their 
ugly faces.

Max Boot, eh? Do you want me to quote another hundred, mostly very 
prominent ex-GOP members? Strategists, authors, ex-elected state/US 
officials, etc., everyone of them. Maybe 500? How about David Frum? Stuart 
Stevens? Mike Madrid? Bill Kristol? Tim Miller? Colin Powell? Liz Cheney? 
Charlie Sykes? Jennifer Horn? George Conway? Amanda Carpenter? John 
Boehner?

Want more?

Simply "elitists"? Or just leftist idiots? The ones most republicans have 
supported/agreed with, probably all their lives? No, that's right, I 
wouldn't think so.

So quit your pathetic BS about "the foreigner" who has it all figured out. 
Or about the "leftists". True conservatives, in droves, would all sign off 
on every stand on this that I've taken in these threads. Americans. They 
understand that this is not about the usual party politics quibble. You 
know, that simplistic way you want to make to be. The reason is crystal 
clear; like me and unlike you, they are true democrats who values (US) 
democracy above all else and they all see how dangerous Donald Trump with 
his Big Lie is to US democracy.

Your ridiculous cheap shot's don't work here, because I will not take no 
BS from you or anyone else about this. Discuss the facts, fine with me.

So,

 ***The 2020 election was not crooked. Not stolen. No fraud and no 
irregularities.***

You should stop watching all these rightwing news outlets and talking 
heads who are still spreading this *LIE* to get higher numbers. A 
disgusting business model, btw. Someone here talked about "millions of 
Americans" believe the Big Lie.. Sure, they are fed lies upon lies upon 
lies about this. Every hour around the clock. A garden variety of selected 
home cooked geniuses are displayed to confirm the lies. It's called brain 
washing.

Because it is just that - A LIE. The BIG LIE.

I asked John to provide *evidence* about foul play in the election. He 
didn't. Neither will or can you. And neither can those rightwing news 
outlets or those talking heads. Dominion is suing some of the worst 
perpetrators, more to come. One of Trump's lunatic lawyers tried to defend 
herself by stating that "no serious person would believe that I had any 
supporting facts to show". And she was partly correct, for the first time. 
No serious person ever did. And now she's sued and will pay the price. 
Let's see how Giuliani fares.

John is a master at finding evidence as you well know. The reason he's not 
providing them about this is simple. There are *NONE* to be found. Zero. 
Zilch. I know that John, unlike the Trump lawyer, doesn't want to make a 
total fool of himself, silence is better. Nothing exists anywhere that 
supports Donald Trumps BIG LIE. Do you understand this? You disagree? 
Fine. And simple. Present the evidence and then maybe your postings are 
worth reading. I'll be waiting.

Donald Trump is not "colorful", as John suggested. A transparent and poor 
excuse for a very, very disturbed human being, in my opinion.

Donald Trump is an epic, pathological liar. +25.000 lies according to the 
WP, who kept track. Donald Trump's biggest lie is about an election he 
lost, fair and square. But Donald Trump never admits to anything. Never 
backs down. Never. He's bailed himself out of everything his entire life. 
His dad paid. Banks paid. Civilians have paid the price for him. Small 
companies paid. And illegal immigration workers paid.

Women have paid the price, most notably his wife at the time Trump was 
running around with porn stars when she was at home with a four months old 
son of his. The entire US has no doubt paid for a lot of his (and his 
family's) grifting during his presidency. Now his followers are paying. 
And trying to bail him out. And he's grifting them too, of course. Had to 
pay them back 122 millions. More to come. Never held accountable. Instead 
he doubles down and keeps lying.

Why would anyone excuse all of this?

Donald Trump's narcissistic personality disorder prevents him from 
understand the damage he's doing by lying about the "stolen election". And 
even worse damage is done by those who blindly chose to believe those 
lies, and spreading them on. And no, I don't hate Donald Trump. He is a 
tragic figure, most probably in dire need of psychological help, as Mary 
Trump (a psychologist, who moreover know him far better than his 
followers) and other psychologists have suggested. I feel sorry for Donald 
Trump.

And why would anyone excuse that the GOP, without a political platform, is 
now instead all about power - under Donald Trump, at any price?

As that is exactly what you are doing. Don't you try to blame me for 
anything that is getting burned down. You strongly owe that one.

The entire voter suppression question is, in the first place, based on 
Trump's BIG LIE. Disagree with him and he will flame you and you're gone, 
which certainly every elected local GOP official around the US is 
extremely well aware of. So what are they doing? Creating 360 bills about 
new voting laws, that's exactly what they are doing to please Donald 
Trump. Banana republic methods in its very ugly US version.=20

Agree with Trump about the "stolen election" and you are not supporting 
your democracy. This is the choice.

Shameful.