Re: Ahmaud Arbery - More details emerge

On Friday, April 9, 2021 at 7:21:41 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 8:26:09 PM UTC-4, Bud wrote:=20
> > On Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 5:30:53 PM UTC-4, ajohnstone wrote:=20
> > > So your basic belief is that the McMichaels and Bryan have absolutely=
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> > > nothing to be answerable for.=20
> > Correct. There was criminal activity in their neighborhood and they=20
> > wanted it to stop. They only threat to Arbery`s life is if he did what =
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> > did. He literally forced Travis McMichaels` hand.=20
> > > I suggest you are endorsing "white entitlement" and i further suggest=
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> > > would never endorse such a process if the position was flipped, eithe=
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> > > the crime was white upon white or an African-American vigilante kille=
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> > > white man.=20
> > I think the event plays out exactly the same if the prowler was white.=
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> > Travis McMichaels calls the cops just like he did on the 11th, And if i=
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> > was a white suspect leaving the house, the McMichaels react the same, t=
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> > grab their guns, jump in their truck and chase him down. You think Greg=
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> > McMichaels says "Ah, never mind, it`s a white guy, let him go". Not a=
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> > chance.=20
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> > And if you think I would care if Travis McMichael blew away a white guy=
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> > who came at him like this, you don`t know me very well. I can show you=
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> > video after video of cops shooting white guys that I wholeheartedly=20
> > support. It is the people of the left that insist on making racist=20
> > assumptions whenever a white shoots a black.=20
> > > Barnhill made his determination on limited one-sided information.=20
> > What pertinent information didn`t he have? He had the autopsy, witness=
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> > statements, the video and knowledge of Georgia law.=20
> > > But you=20
> > > maintain he is above reproach and any criticism is politically motiva=
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> > I believe politically motivated groups want to dictate outcomes. That i=
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> > what you are seeing here, people with the "wrong" kind of thinking are=
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> > being replaced with people with the "right" kind of thinking. The Arber=
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> > family is making all the demands, and those demands are being met. That=
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> > alone shows the assumption that the McMichaels were in the wrong, and=
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> > Arbery is blameless for what occurred. The call for "justice" is merely=
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> > demand of getting the outcome they desire.=20
> > > =E2=80=9CProbable cause was clear to our agents pretty quickly,=E2=80=
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> > > Georgia Bureau of Investigation Director Vic Reynolds said.=20
> > They could have called a grand jury. They knew they`d be blown out of=
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> > the water.=20
> > > At a request from Attorney General Chris Carr, Georgia Bureau of=20
> > > Investigation will proceed with a formal examination into possible=20
> > > misconduct by DAs offices involved in Ahmaud Arbery's murder case whi=
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> > > may have constituted "unprofessional conduct" in addition to "other=
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> > > crimes."=20
> > You saw what Barnhill said, look all you like.=20
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> > And beside only looking at the DAs, I hope they also look at surroundin=
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> > neighborhoods that Arbery might have "jogged" through, see if any crimi=
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> > complaints match his description.
> Well, as usual my suspicions turned out to be spot on. New evidence is=20
> showing a pattern of criminal activity by Arbery (good luck finding this=
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> information covered by the MSM).=20
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> See the video here, starting around 6:45...=20
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> https://youtu.be/4ZOXKVRL3Sw=20
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> Clearly these are patterns of criminal behavior. You can see the MO of=20
> criminal activity and you can see that he is known to react violently whe=
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> confronted.=20

  I should have linked to the primary material rather than the video 
talking about the information. These are the primary documents...

   https://www.glynncounty.org/DocumentCenter/View/69162/114-Notice-of-Intent

  The guy clearly had mental issues, and would respond violently when 
confronted. His own mother said as much in a 9-11 call to police.

  The whole contrive narrative of innocent jogger is in a shambles, and it 
doesn`t seem the case against Chauvin is doing much better. We can expect 
"unrest", I suppose, and I wonder if anyone is taking any steps in 
preparation. Is the National Guard on standby, do we have plenty of buses 
and zipties ready to arrest those who act unlawfully? Or are our elected 
officials going to leave us unprotected, only acting against those that 
have the audacity to protect themselves from the irrational angry mobs?

> I`ll make an observation that will make some people unhappy. I`ve know=20
> criminals my whole life, had many career criminals as friends growing up.=
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> Whenever you see a criminal, say a car thief, and his record is something=
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> like a year ago, arrested for stealing cars, 6 months ago same thing,=20
> three months ago same thing, you can be pretty sure that person has been=
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> doing the same crime in many of the days in between those arrests, he jus=
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> wasn`t unlucky enough to be caught the few times he committed such a=20
> crime.
> > > You have already made up your mind and reached your judgement.=20
> > Pretty much. I believe I have a pretty good idea about how things=20
> > transpired.=20
> > > McMichaels=20
> > > own version of what happened is the truth.=20
> > Without the video I`d have no idea. With it, it is easy to see. Arbery=
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> > made a foolish and ultimately fatal decision.=20
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> > > Bryans is unreliable.=20
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> > Bryan is willing to say anything to help himself, and if he thinks=20
> > saying something helps him and hurts the McMichaels, he is willing to d=
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> > this. He could have said the truth, that the neighborhood was concerned=
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> > about all the criminal activity going on, so they were all on the looko=
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> > They should have all stuck together (English too) and said there was a=
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> > problem, and the neighborhood was acting in response to the problem. Ca=
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> > it what it was, law abiding people banding together against those up to=
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> > good.=20
> > > A trial=20
> > > by jury is pointless.=20
> > When it is clear no crimes were committed, yes.=20
> > > Arbery was guilty of something, and because he=20
> > > didn't submit meekly to the demands of armed strangers, he deserved w=
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> > > he got.=20
> > He got what he got because he attacked Travis McMichaels. He took the=
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> > only action that would have gotten that result. If they wanted Arbery d=
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> > they could have just run him down with their truck. The could have shot=
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> > him numerous times during the chase. The only thing that was different=
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> > when he got shot was he rushed and attacked the person holding the gun.=
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> > > And that is what you describe to be justice.=20
> > You assume an injustice. I don`t. I see it as a event that Arbery could=
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> > have avoided. I`d feel the same if Arbery jumped in front of McMichaels=
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> > truck and they rolled over him. "There is someone who didn`t hold his l=
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> > dearly enough"