Re: Manmade Global Warming is absolutely unreal

D <[email protected]> Fri, 1 Mar 2024 10:19:10 +0100
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On Thu, 29 Feb 2024, Scout wrote:

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> "J Gillis" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
> news:[email protected]...
>> On 28 Feb 2024, Rudy Canoza <[email protected]> posted some
>> news:[email protected]:
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>>>> Here is the graph of the past 5 million years of global temperature
>>> 
>>> No, it isn't.
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>> Restored.
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>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHWnG_bbgAAhQCI?format=jpg&name=large
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>> Added
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>> Bell, L. (2011). Climate of corruption: Politics and power behind the
>> global warming hoax. Austin, TX: Greenleaf Book Group Press.
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> Heck, let's get even more specific.. here's the chart for the last 2,000 
> years. showing that global temperatures have been hotter and colder MULTIPLE 
> times in the last 2000 years. So whether global temperatures are increasing 
> or decreasing all depends on the PERIOD OF TIME you're looking at.
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> Further until we can explain how and why the temperatures changed 
> historically we can not establish whether the current change is or is not 
> part of the normal events.
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> https://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-background-articles/2000-years-of-global-temperatures.

The problems with this argument are two.

1. It's cherry picked. I'm not a climate hysteric, but when debating with 
climate hysterics, they just choose another graph that shows that the 
earth is ending. So "graph against graph".

2. Like the graph of the climate hysteric, this graph is also heavily 
worked on with statistical tools to adjust for various things. Depending 
on how you work the statistics, your graph will either point to dooms day 
scenarios, or to climate change being a natural phenomenon.

This is also the problem with all climate hysterics based on "models". I 
can create a model that shows that all is good, just as well as one that 
shows everyone dies tomorrow.

As long as politics has decided that every will die, and money and media 
is in on it, any scientific debate is meaningless.

The only thing, I believe, that will end climate hysteria, is when the 
politicians push their politics of repentance and sacrifice too far, 
making it difficult or impossible for regular people to live their lives. 
_Then_ will see a massive rage, over reaction, and an authoritarian 
politician ripping away all green madness, and the earth will then not 
collapse. Perhaps after the authoritarian, the earlth can then proceed 
with business as usual. But I expect a severe and maybe violent 
overreaction once regular people get tired of the current climate priests.