Re: Manmade Global Warming is absolutely unreal

On 3/3/2024 2:42 PM, D wrote:
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> On Sun, 3 Mar 2024, Dawn Flood wrote:
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>> On 3/2/2024 6:55 AM, D wrote:
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>>> On Sat, 2 Mar 2024, Dawn Flood wrote:
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>>>> On 3/1/2024 3:23 AM, D wrote:
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>>>>> On Thu, 29 Feb 2024, Dawn Flood wrote:
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>>>>>> On 2/29/2024 3:27 PM, Scout wrote:
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>>>>>>> "J Gillis" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>>> On 28 Feb 2024, Rudy Canoza <[email protected]> posted some
>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
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>>>>>>>>>> Here is the graph of the past 5 million years of global 
>>>>>>>>>> temperature
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>>>>>>>>> No, it isn't.
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>>>>>>>> Restored.
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>>>>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHWnG_bbgAAhQCI?format=jpg&name=large
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>>>>>>>> Bell, L. (2011). Climate of corruption: Politics and power 
>>>>>>>> behind the
>>>>>>>> global warming hoax. Austin, TX: Greenleaf Book Group Press.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heck, let's get even more specific.. here's the chart for the 
>>>>>>> last 2,000 years. showing that global temperatures have been 
>>>>>>> hotter and colder MULTIPLE times in the last 2000 years. So 
>>>>>>> whether global temperatures are increasing or decreasing all 
>>>>>>> depends on the PERIOD OF TIME you're looking at.
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>>>>>>> Further until we can explain how and why the temperatures changed 
>>>>>>> historically we can not establish whether the current change is 
>>>>>>> or is not part of the normal events.
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>>>>>>> https://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-background-articles/2000-years-of-global-temperatures.
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>>>>>> This is just Insanity on Parade.  The IPCC uses dozens of climate 
>>>>>> models in their climate forecasts:
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>>>>>> https://www.carbonbrief.org/cmip6-the-next-generation-of-climate-models-explained/
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>>>>>> It's easy "hand waving" to say that all of these climate models 
>>>>>> are wrong, but the fact is that the seminal paper on global 
>>>>>> warming was published in the journal Science in May 1967:
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>>>>>> https://history.aip.org/climate/timeline.htm
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>>>>>> As for our World being warmer in the past, yep, such is true, but 
>>>>>> mammals, especially we H. Sapiens, are recent newcomers.  To stay 
>>>>>> alive, yours and mine's bodies require a mostly constant 
>>>>>> temperature, which means that at 50C, you will last about a day 
>>>>>> before succumbing to "natural causes".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dawn
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>>>>> Ah, but let's not forget that there is one thing that separate good 
>>>>> old "homo S" from the animals and that is technology. Plenty of 
>>>>> arabians walking around and they regularly experience 40-50 C and 
>>>>> thrive, due to technology.
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>>>>> Also, there is no proof that we'll have a global temperature of 50 
>>>>> over the planet. It could be 40, 30, it could be 0, in the very 
>>>>> long term, we have no clue.
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>>>>> But no hysterics necessary, climate change is natural, and homo S 
>>>>> will survived thanks to technology regardless of how the 
>>>>> temperature shifts.
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>>>> To kill all of the life in a given area does not require "a global 
>>>> temperature of 50 over the planet", but only 50C for 12 hours in a 
>>>> given area.  In statistics, one has the arithmetic mean but then one 
>>>> also has the variance.
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>>> That is incorrect. There is life living in way hotter areas than 50C 
>>> quite happily. Further, humans have technology.
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>> Other than plants, reptiles & bacteria, please indicate which 
>> mammalian species can survive for long periods of time at 50C?
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> But now you shifted. You said "life" not mammals. In terms of mammals, 
> the highest I can find is camel and jerboa. Utilizing shadows and 
> burrowing I'd say they would be able to handle 50 C. But of course, you 
> can add those limitations as well, but I think I made my point. ;)

Indeed, you have!  And, I suppose that I am rightly corrected on this 
one.  Still, if things really spiral out of control and global 
temperatures spiral above 100C, then there won't be much point arguing 
over this, will there?  Of course, all the climate models will have been 
proven wrong in such a scenario, but that is what you are already 
claiming to be the case anyways.

Dawn