Re: Manmade Global Warming is absolutely unreal

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On Sun, 3 Mar 2024, Dawn Flood wrote:

> On 3/3/2024 2:42 PM, D wrote:
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>> 
>> On Sun, 3 Mar 2024, Dawn Flood wrote:
>> 
>>> On 3/2/2024 6:55 AM, D wrote:
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>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 2 Mar 2024, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/1/2024 3:23 AM, D wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, 29 Feb 2024, Dawn Flood wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2/29/2024 3:27 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "J Gillis" <[email protected]> wrote in message 
>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>>>>>>> On 28 Feb 2024, Rudy Canoza <[email protected]> posted some
>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the graph of the past 5 million years of global 
>>>>>>>>>>> temperature
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> No, it isn't.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Restored.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GHWnG_bbgAAhQCI?format=jpg&name=large
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Added
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Bell, L. (2011). Climate of corruption: Politics and power behind 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> global warming hoax. Austin, TX: Greenleaf Book Group Press.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Heck, let's get even more specific.. here's the chart for the last 
>>>>>>>> 2,000 years. showing that global temperatures have been hotter and 
>>>>>>>> colder MULTIPLE times in the last 2000 years. So whether global 
>>>>>>>> temperatures are increasing or decreasing all depends on the PERIOD 
>>>>>>>> OF TIME you're looking at.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Further until we can explain how and why the temperatures changed 
>>>>>>>> historically we can not establish whether the current change is or is 
>>>>>>>> not part of the normal events.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> https://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-background-articles/2000-years-of-global-temperatures.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is just Insanity on Parade.  The IPCC uses dozens of climate 
>>>>>>> models in their climate forecasts:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://www.carbonbrief.org/cmip6-the-next-generation-of-climate-models-explained/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's easy "hand waving" to say that all of these climate models are 
>>>>>>> wrong, but the fact is that the seminal paper on global warming was 
>>>>>>> published in the journal Science in May 1967:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://history.aip.org/climate/timeline.htm
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As for our World being warmer in the past, yep, such is true, but 
>>>>>>> mammals, especially we H. Sapiens, are recent newcomers.  To stay 
>>>>>>> alive, yours and mine's bodies require a mostly constant temperature, 
>>>>>>> which means that at 50C, you will last about a day before succumbing 
>>>>>>> to "natural causes".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dawn
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ah, but let's not forget that there is one thing that separate good old 
>>>>>> "homo S" from the animals and that is technology. Plenty of arabians 
>>>>>> walking around and they regularly experience 40-50 C and thrive, due to 
>>>>>> technology.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, there is no proof that we'll have a global temperature of 50 over 
>>>>>> the planet. It could be 40, 30, it could be 0, in the very long term, 
>>>>>> we have no clue.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> But no hysterics necessary, climate change is natural, and homo S will 
>>>>>> survived thanks to technology regardless of how the temperature shifts.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To kill all of the life in a given area does not require "a global 
>>>>> temperature of 50 over the planet", but only 50C for 12 hours in a given 
>>>>> area.  In statistics, one has the arithmetic mean but then one also has 
>>>>> the variance.
>>>> 
>>>> That is incorrect. There is life living in way hotter areas than 50C 
>>>> quite happily. Further, humans have technology.
>>> 
>>> Other than plants, reptiles & bacteria, please indicate which mammalian 
>>> species can survive for long periods of time at 50C?
>> 
>> But now you shifted. You said "life" not mammals. In terms of mammals, the 
>> highest I can find is camel and jerboa. Utilizing shadows and burrowing I'd 
>> say they would be able to handle 50 C. But of course, you can add those 
>> limitations as well, but I think I made my point. ;)
>
> Indeed, you have!  And, I suppose that I am rightly corrected on this one. 
> Still, if things really spiral out of control and global temperatures spiral 
> above 100C, then there won't be much point arguing over this, will there?  Of 
> course, all the climate models will have been proven wrong in such a 
> scenario, but that is what you are already claiming to be the case anyways.
>
> Dawn
>

Good morning Dawn, well, I think we've found one area where we can agree 
to agree, and that is if we'll see 100 C there will only by microorganisms 
left and that all current climate models are wrong. ;)

Best regards,
Daniel
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