Re: In the atheist bible, is homosexuality condemned?

On Jul 31, 2026 at 4:58:27 AM MST, "Attila" wrote
<[email protected]>:

> On 31 Jul 2026 08:43:18 GMT, Brock McNuggets
> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 11:23:54?AM MST, "Attila" wrote
>> <[email protected]>:
>> 
>>> On 30 Jul 2026 15:19:21 GMT, Brock McNuggets
>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 1:13:41?AM MST, "Attila" wrote
>>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 29 Jul 2026 17:52:42 GMT, Brock McNuggets
>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2026 at 10:42:19?AM MST, "Attila" wrote
>>>>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 29 Jul 2026 15:32:43 GMT, Brock McNuggets
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2026 at 11:52:51?PM MST, "Rudy Canoza" wrote
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 19 Jul 2026, Brock McNuggets <[email protected]> posted some
>>>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 19, 2026 at 5:42:46?AM MST, "Attila" wrote
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 Jul 2026 07:25:04 GMT, Brock McNuggets
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 2026 at 11:17:48?PM MST, "Attila" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Jul 2026 23:39:32 GMT, Brock McNuggets
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 2026 at 11:41:59?AM MST, "Attila" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Jul 2026 14:28:47 GMT, Brock McNuggets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 2026 at 2:29:18?AM MST, "Attila" wrote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Jul 2026 06:27:25 GMT, Brock McNuggets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote: "Do it legally and you are welcomed." / "They came here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> illegally, they are criminals."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Boundary-drawing rhetoric used by organized nativist networks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to equate illegality with moral corruption and inferiority.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See SPLC on FAIR and other restrictionist groups
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is true.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AI Overview                 criminal/'krim?nl/A criminal is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an individual who has committed a crime or broken the law.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As an adjective, the term describes activities, behaviors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or laws related to illegal actions and their punishments.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not necessary to be convicted of anything in court to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be a criminal.  Being here illegally is a violation of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> federal law and therefore such a person is automatically a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> criminal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Being in the US illegally is a civil violation. So is speeding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.  A law official can punish in either case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They can also punish pedophilia but you do not care about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prosecuting Trump.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For what?
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pedophelia and his many other crimes.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Has he ever been formally charged?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The Loony Left would not miss an opportunity to charge him
>>>>>>>>>>> with anything they can get into court.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Remember you moved goal posts. In one case the standard is if they
>>>>>>>>>> have been charged. In the other it is not. And you also move goal
>>>>>>>>>> posts from BEING in the country illegally (charged or not) to ENTERING
>>>>>>>>>> illegally -- which are very different things. Many who are here
>>>>>>>>>> illegally did not enter illegally. And once they are here the charge
>>>>>>>>>> would not be about entry.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> That's crap.  Illegal is illegal.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Not all illegal acts are equal... but when you focus on a misdemeanor over
>>>>>>>> pedophelia,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Uncharged, untried, and unproven.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yet you want to deport them and have talked about not even wanting due
>>>>>> process.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many have already had due process and deportation orders
>>>>> have been issued.
>>>> 
>>>> Many have not. And if you cared about them following the law you would
>>>> denounce them being abducted as they are in court, working with the laws.
>>>> 
>>>> It is about bigotry, not legality. And you have already said you want to
>>>> ignore the law to target them.
>> 
>> You ignored this.
>>> 
>>> No, I have not.  Give a reference to where I made such a
>>> statement.  A link to a specific post.
> 
> Once again you fail to back up your lie.

Keep in mind the main differences between liberal and conservative world
views:

* Liberals: support equal rights and environmental protection, with a focus on
investing in the future and building a stronger tie between productivity and
financial reward.

Liberals want evidence-based regulation and oversight to help ensure clean air
and water, safe food, and human rights. This includes following the scientific
evidence about climate change and food safety, and things like setting levels
of lead and other harmful substances allowed, and even to wanting to do
research to reduce the harm of tools such as cars and guns and swimming pools.
This is a form of control, and conservatives are right to note that. And they
are right to note that sometimes these measures are taken too far.

* Conservative: support special entitlements for whites, Christians, males,
heterosexuals, those in lower populated states, and the wealthy, with a focus
on redistributing wealth to the very richest in the nation with the idea that
this will somehow help others.

Conservatives want regulation and oversight based on their own feelings and
what they believe has historically existed (which is often incorrect), or even
just based on their own religion. This includes controlling which consenting
adults can marry each other, what a woman can do with her own body, and even
insisting the government gets to define YOUR gender. They also work to create
regulations on voting to limit who can vote, for if the people truly get a
voice they know their ideas are less likely to be accepted. Liberals are right
to call conservatives out on this also being a form of control and, I think, a
less defensible one.


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