Re: Why the electoral college is manifestly and obviously wrong and unjust

On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 13:01:38 +0000, Mitchell Holman
<[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Attila <[email protected]> wrote in 
>news:[email protected]:
>
>> On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 01:47:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>Attila <[email protected]> wrote in 
>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 17:59:08 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>Attila <[email protected]> wrote in 
>>>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 13:19:03 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in 
>>>>>>>news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 10:44:46 -0400, Attila
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>Each region elects it's own representative and the major
>>>>>>>>>population centers cannot dictate who the governor,
>>>>>>>>>Senators, or Representatives are for smaller states,
>>>>>>>>>Everyone has a voice.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Then why do smaller states get to dictate to population centers 
>who
>>>>>>>> gets elected to those offices?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Exactly. Voters in eastern Washington and
>>>>>>>eastern Oregon bitch loudly about how their 
>>>>>>>state politics are dominated by a few coastal
>>>>>>>cities but no one is proposing an EC.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It would be impractical to implement a county by county EC
>>>>>> system for a state.  One state cannot control the national
>>>>>> election.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    It is impractical to implement 
>>>>>an EC anywhere. The whole idea is 
>>>>>violation of one-man-one-vote
>>>>>democracy. 
>>>> 
>>>> No, it isn't.  Each person still has one vote.  We do not
>>>> have a democratic system allowing direct vote totals to
>>>> elect the President.
>>>
>>>
>>>     If ballots from state X are given 
>>>more weight than ballots from state Y
>>>then they are per se not equal. 
>>>
>> 
>> Apples and oranges.  They are equal but the system does not
>> give control to the voting majority. 
>
>
>    And that is the problem. 
>
>    What is the point of an election if
>the loser wins?

It would depend on how you define loser.  Under our system
the loser gets fewer EC votes than the winner.

>
>
>>  It is designed that
>> way.
>> 
>> The objective is to protect the power of the current
>> minority.
>> 
>
>    The original "current minority" were slave owners.
>
>    Not so current anymore.  
>

Not too many slave owners either.

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