Re: Voter ID Is racist But ID Requirement For Mamdani's Grocery Store is Not?

Wi1liam T T <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 12 Aug 2026, bonehead rudy wrote: 
>> On 8/12/2026 3:37 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 09:24:28 -0700, David Hartung wrote:
>>>> On 8/11/2026 9:00 AM, Skeeter posted:
>>>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>>> On 8/10/2026 2:02 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I will not budge an inch until they make obtaining ID
>>>>>>>>>>>> realistically feasible for any and every voter.  Voter ID
>>>>>>>>>>>> has merit in theory but in practice it's disenfranchisement
>>>>>>>>>>>> without a plan to give everyone the needed ID.
>>>>>>>>>>> Then budge.  Here's how I got a copy of my birth certificate
>>>>>>>>>>> so I could get my DL.
>>>>>>>>>>> I sent a letter to the appropriate dept of records in my
>>>>>>>>>>> birth state. I provided my name, birth date and time,
>>>>>>>>>>> hospital name, pediatrician's name, both parents' full names
>>>>>>>>>>> including mom's maiden name. I put a check in the envelope,
>>>>>>>>>>> sent it off and within two weeks I had a certified, embossed
>>>>>>>>>>> copy of my BC. It was easy.
>>>>>>>>>>> This is why I have little sympathy for those who whine
>>>>>>>>>>> endlessly about disenfranchisement of voters without ID.
>>>>>>>>>>> Your ID is easy to get and if you don't have the knowledge,
>>>>>>>>>>> motivation or the wherewithal to get it, we'd be better off
>>>>>>>>>>> if you didn't vote. 
>>>>>>>>>> Show me where any Republican has even mentioned an innovative
>>>>>>>>>> way to expand access to the kind of ID required.  It's
>>>>>>>>>> nonexistent.  SAVE is saving them from losing the 2026 and
>>>>>>>>>> 2028 elections, not democracy, it's the end of democracy.
>>>>>>>>> It's not the end of democracy.  Don't be so dramatic.
>>>>>>>>> The point both sides are missing in this argument is as I wrote
>>>>>>>>> before, people who do not maintain ID are not, as a group,
>>>>>>>>> people I would trust with the vote.
>>>>>>>> Then *you* are MAGA, heil Hitler!
>>>>>>> As you like, but the last thing I want is to see a wino sell his
>>>>>>> vote for a fresh bottle.
>>>>>> You really think voter ID is about stopping that?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Partially yes.
>>>> 
>>>> Not in any way.
>>> 
>>> Try again.
>>> <https://nypost.com/2026/06/09/opinion/did-skid-row-voters-help-skew-l
>>> a-election/> 
>> 
>> That article doesn't mention a thing about buying votes with alcohol.
>> It basically is a bunch of right-wingnut shrieking.
> 
> "The DOJ is now in custody of plenty of videos circulating today in which 
> many of the Homeless population on Skid Row admitted to being paid 
> anywhere between 2 to 5 dollars per vote. They all said this is a 
> customary occurrence around election time."
> 

Paying them to vote is a crime

But they probably had the right to vote either way 

I watch  all the grift going on around political circles and wonder why
more people aren’t aghast at this kind of vote buying

And you don’t even need ID 

https://youtu.be/hCuMWrfXG4E