Re: Voter ID Is racist But ID Requirement For Mamdani's Grocery Store is Not?

On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 03:54:17 GMT, marika wrote:
>Wi1liam T T <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 12 Aug 2026, bonehead rudy wrote: 
>>> On 8/12/2026 3:37 AM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 09:24:28 -0700, David Hartung wrote:
>>>>> On 8/11/2026 9:00 AM, Skeeter posted:
>>>>>> [email protected] says...
>>>>>>> On 8/10/2026 2:02 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will not budge an inch until they make obtaining ID
>>>>>>>>>>>>> realistically feasible for any and every voter.  Voter ID
>>>>>>>>>>>>> has merit in theory but in practice it's disenfranchisement
>>>>>>>>>>>>> without a plan to give everyone the needed ID.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then budge.  Here's how I got a copy of my birth certificate
>>>>>>>>>>>> so I could get my DL.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I sent a letter to the appropriate dept of records in my
>>>>>>>>>>>> birth state. I provided my name, birth date and time,
>>>>>>>>>>>> hospital name, pediatrician's name, both parents' full names
>>>>>>>>>>>> including mom's maiden name. I put a check in the envelope,
>>>>>>>>>>>> sent it off and within two weeks I had a certified, embossed
>>>>>>>>>>>> copy of my BC. It was easy.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This is why I have little sympathy for those who whine
>>>>>>>>>>>> endlessly about disenfranchisement of voters without ID.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Your ID is easy to get and if you don't have the knowledge,
>>>>>>>>>>>> motivation or the wherewithal to get it, we'd be better off
>>>>>>>>>>>> if you didn't vote. 
>>>>>>>>>>> Show me where any Republican has even mentioned an innovative
>>>>>>>>>>> way to expand access to the kind of ID required.  It's
>>>>>>>>>>> nonexistent.  SAVE is saving them from losing the 2026 and
>>>>>>>>>>> 2028 elections, not democracy, it's the end of democracy.
>>>>>>>>>> It's not the end of democracy.  Don't be so dramatic.
>>>>>>>>>> The point both sides are missing in this argument is as I wrote
>>>>>>>>>> before, people who do not maintain ID are not, as a group,
>>>>>>>>>> people I would trust with the vote.
>>>>>>>>> Then *you* are MAGA, heil Hitler!
>>>>>>>> As you like, but the last thing I want is to see a wino sell his
>>>>>>>> vote for a fresh bottle.
>>>>>>> You really think voter ID is about stopping that?

My answer to this is that blocking voter ID can enable it.

>>>>>> Partially yes.

Agree.

>>>>> Not in any way.
>>>> Try again.
>>>> <https://nypost.com/2026/06/09/opinion/did-skid-row-voters-help-skew-l
>>>> a-election/>  
>>> That article doesn't mention a thing about buying votes with alcohol.
>>> It basically is a bunch of right-wingnut shrieking. 
>> "The DOJ is now in custody of plenty of videos circulating today in which 
>> many of the Homeless population on Skid Row admitted to being paid 
>> anywhere between 2 to 5 dollars per vote. They all said this is a 
>> customary occurrence around election time."

>Paying them to vote is a crime
>
>But they probably had the right to vote either way 
>
>I watch  all the grift going on around political circles and wonder why
>more people aren’t aghast at this kind of vote buying

Why do you assume the story is true?

Consider the winner of the most recent LA mayoral election won by
44,812 votes.

Find me 44,813 thirsty winos who voted in LA and we'll talk about it
again.

>And you don’t even need ID 
>
>https://youtu.be/hCuMWrfXG4E
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