Re: Why the electoral college is manifestly and obviously wrong and unjust

On 8/13/2026 3:17 AM, Attila wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 01:47:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
>> news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 17:59:08 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 13:19:03 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 10:44:46 -0400, Attila
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Each region elects it's own representative and the major
>>>>>>>> population centers cannot dictate who the governor,
>>>>>>>> Senators, or Representatives are for smaller states,
>>>>>>>> Everyone has a voice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then why do smaller states get to dictate to population centers who
>>>>>>> gets elected to those offices?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Exactly. Voters in eastern Washington and
>>>>>> eastern Oregon bitch loudly about how their
>>>>>> state politics are dominated by a few coastal
>>>>>> cities but no one is proposing an EC.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be impractical to implement a county by county EC
>>>>> system for a state.  One state cannot control the national
>>>>> election.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     It is impractical to implement
>>>> an EC anywhere. The whole idea is
>>>> violation of one-man-one-vote
>>>> democracy.
>>>
>>> No, it isn't.  Each person still has one vote.  We do not
>>> have a democratic system allowing direct vote totals to
>>> elect the President.

We ought to have. It is the same method by which every state elects its governor.

Half a dozen prominent delegates to the constitutional convention, including two 
of the three most prominent, were in favor of a popularly elected president. The 
idea lost, but it gives the complete lie to the claim that "the founders" didn't 
want direct election. *Some* founders wanted it.

>>
>>      If ballots from state X are given
>> more weight than ballots from state Y
>> then they are per se not equal.
>>
> 
> Apples and oranges.

That's a stupid comment.

> They are equal but the system does not
> give control to the voting majority.  It is designed that
> way.

It's an objectively shitty design. There is no valid justification for giving 22 
million politically unified voters across 16 backward states 45% more electoral 
votes than 22 million voters in one state.

> The objective is to protect the power of the current
> minority.

There is no valid justification for protecting a minority point of view.