Re: Why the electoral college is manifestly and obviously wrong and unjust

On Fri, 14 Aug 2026 11:34:09 -0700, Lou Bricano <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 8/13/2026 3:17 AM, Attila wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Aug 2026 01:47:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 17:59:08 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Attila <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2026 13:19:03 +0000, Mitchell Holman
>>>>>> <[email protected]> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Governor Swill <[email protected]> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:[email protected]:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Aug 2026 10:44:46 -0400, Attila
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Each region elects it's own representative and the major
>>>>>>>>> population centers cannot dictate who the governor,
>>>>>>>>> Senators, or Representatives are for smaller states,
>>>>>>>>> Everyone has a voice.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then why do smaller states get to dictate to population centers who
>>>>>>>> gets elected to those offices?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Exactly. Voters in eastern Washington and
>>>>>>> eastern Oregon bitch loudly about how their
>>>>>>> state politics are dominated by a few coastal
>>>>>>> cities but no one is proposing an EC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be impractical to implement a county by county EC
>>>>>> system for a state.  One state cannot control the national
>>>>>> election.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     It is impractical to implement
>>>>> an EC anywhere. The whole idea is
>>>>> violation of one-man-one-vote
>>>>> democracy.
>>>>
>>>> No, it isn't.  Each person still has one vote.  We do not
>>>> have a democratic system allowing direct vote totals to
>>>> elect the President.
>
>We ought to have. It is the same method by which every state elects its governor.
>
>Half a dozen prominent delegates to the constitutional convention, including two 
>of the three most prominent, were in favor of a popularly elected president. The 
>idea lost, but it gives the complete lie to the claim that "the founders" didn't 
>want direct election. *Some* founders wanted it.
>
>>>
>>>      If ballots from state X are given
>>> more weight than ballots from state Y
>>> then they are per se not equal.
>>>
>> 
>> Apples and oranges.
>
>That's a stupid comment.
>
>> They are equal but the system does not
>> give control to the voting majority.  It is designed that
>> way.
>
>It's an objectively shitty design. There is no valid justification for giving 22 
>million politically unified voters across 16 backward states 45% more electoral 
>votes than 22 million voters in one state.
>
>> The objective is to protect the power of the current
>> minority.
>
>There is no valid justification for protecting a minority point of view.

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