Re: Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God

On Fri, 21 Aug 2026 09:05:53 -0700, "Andrew"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>"Vincent Maycock" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:  
>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>"Vincent Maycock"wrote:
>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> DNA evidence points to Creation by a most awesome Creator
>>>>>>>>>                                   ~~~> God.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   If a "wise god" created all species
>>>>>>>> why did 99% of them go extinct?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why? because of *devolution* That's why.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why would God allow "devolution"?
>>>>>
>>>>>This came in after the Fall.
>>>>
>>>> That doesn't explain why devolution would be caused by "the Fall."
>>>>
>>>>>Look up, "genetic entropy".
>>>>
>>>> So you're still fascinated by the word "entropy" after 
>>>> creationist claims about the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics 
>>>>were disproven?
>>>
>>>That's because you quibble over the definition of the
>>>word, which goes 'beyond' a strictly thermodynamics
>>>paradigm.
>> 
>> No, you would be wrong regardless of which definition of "entropy" you
>> use. Also, thermodynamics is a set of laws and observations,
>> especially about the flow of heat, rather than a "paradigm." 
>> 
>>>Entropy is a measure of disorder, randomness, or 
>>>uncertainty within a system. 
>>>
>>>In thermodynamics, entropy describes the amount of 
>>>thermal energy in a system that is unavailable to do
>>>mechanical work. It is often interpreted as the degree 
>>>of disorder;
>>>
>>>For example, a solid crystal has low entropy, while 
>>>a gas has high entropy because its molecules are 
>>>scattered randomly. 
>>>
>>>The Second Law of Thermodynamics states that the 
>>>total entropy of an isolated system can never decrease
>>>over time, meaning systems naturally evolve toward 
>>>a state of maximum -> disorder.
>> 
>> So you understand now how none of that is incompatible with
>> large-scale evolutionary change (since biological populations are not
>> isolated, a condition mentioned even in your explanation above). 
>> 
>>>In information theory, entropy definition is a little
>>>different. 
>>>
>>>In a general sense, entropy refers to the inevitable 
>>>decline of a system from a state of order, to a state 
>>>of --> chaos.
>> 
>> So you're trying a different approach to try to get "entropy" to
>> disprove evolution.   For that, you should read: 
>
>I do not deny "evolution", I deny the false meaning 
>put on the word. 

That's just semantics being used to hide the fact that you're a
*believer* in an imaginary fantasy-land of Jesus, angels, and myths
and legends found in the Bible. 

>You are a "goo to you" believer. A foolish unscientific
>fantany.

I see that you've discovered a phrase that rhymes.  Unfortunately,
that doesn't bring you any closer to the truth.  

>> https://internet-files.info/textbook-ga-24-1-11/genetic-entropy-and-the-mystery-of-the-genome
>> 
>> Especially: 
>> 
>> "Life has evolved sophisticated strategies to combat the inherent
>> tendency towards genetic degradation. These mechanisms are vital for
>> maintaining genetic integrity and ensuring the successful transmission
>> of viable genetic information across generations. Several key
>> processes contribute to this genetic repair and maintenance:
>> 
>> DNA Repair Mechanisms: Cells possess a battery of enzymes and
>> molecular pathways dedicated to identifying and correcting DNA damage.
>> These systems can repair mismatches, remove damaged bases, and reseal
>> broken DNA strands.
>
>What you cited above is all true. Have you ever considered 
>how evolution could develop such biochemical mechanisms
>that > prevent evolution!? 

Obviously, it's a balance between the two -- if there are too few
mutations, there would be no source for evolutionary change.  Too many
mutations, and you might indeed run into problems with so-called
genetic entropy.  

>> Natural Selection: This is perhaps the most powerful force
>> counteracting genetic entropy. 
>
>Oh no. Now he is entering the realm of fantasy.

You mean to say "Oh, no, he's going to debunk my ideas about genetic
entropy!"

>Yes NS is real, but the effect of entropy on the
>genome is continuously going on.

No, natural selection is among the forces that counter-act genetic
entropy.

>Please stop and consider! 
>
>If there are various forces that will cause genetic 
>degradation, can you see that implies there was 
>a point in time when there was_no_degradation?

You're assuming pure genetic degradation (without the balancing
mechanisms mentioned in the link you were trying to reply to).

>> Organisms with a higher burden of
>> deleterious mutations are often less fit, meaning they are less likely
>> to survive and reproduce. Natural selection acts to remove these
>> detrimental mutations from the gene pool, thereby purifying the
>> genome.
>> 
>> Recombination: In sexually reproducing organisms, genetic
>> recombination during meiosis shuffles genetic material, potentially
>> breaking up clusters of deleterious mutations and allowing beneficial
>> mutations to be more easily passed on.
>> 
>> Gene Duplication and Redundancy: Having multiple copies of certain
>> genes can provide a buffer against mutations. If one copy is rendered
>> non-functional, others can still perform the essential task.
>> 
>> Apoptosis (Programmed Cell Death): In cases of extensive DNA damage
>> that cannot be repaired, cells can self-destruct through apoptosis,
>> preventing the propagation of faulty genetic information.
>> These mechanisms work in concert to maintain the quality of the
>> genome, allowing life to persist and evolve despite the continuous
>> assault of mutations."
>
>
>These help to prevent extinction. 

And they also help prevent the effects of so-called genetic entropy. 
>but entropy keeps marching on.

Which isn't a problem for large-scale evolutionary change.