Re: Atheist Wakes Up In Morgue - After Meeting God

"Andrew" <[email protected]>
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"Vincent Maycock" wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> "Andrew" wrote:
>>"Vincent Maycock" wrote:  
>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>"Vincent Maycock"wrote:
>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>"Mitchell Holman" wrote:
>>>>>>> "Andrew" wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DNA evidence points to Creation by a most awesome Creator
>>>>>>>>                                   ~~~> God.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   If a "wise god" created all species
>>>>>>> why did 99% of them go extinct?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Why? because of *devolution* That's why.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why would God allow "devolution"?
>>>>
>>>>This came in after the Fall.
>>>
>>> That doesn't explain why devolution would be caused by "the Fall."
>>>
>>>>Look up, "genetic entropy".
>>>
>>> So you're still fascinated by the word "entropy" after 
>>> creationist claims about the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics 
>>>were disproven?
>>
>>That's because you quibble over the definition of the
>>word, which goes 'beyond' a strictly thermodynamics
>>paradigm.
> 
> No, you would be wrong regardless of which definition of "entropy" you
> use. Also, thermodynamics is a set of laws and observations,
> especially about the flow of heat, rather than a "paradigm." 
> 
>>Entropy is a measure of disorder, randomness, or 
>>uncertainty within a system. 
>>
>>In thermodynamics, entropy describes the amount of 
>>thermal energy in a system that is unavailable to do
>>mechanical work. It is often interpreted as the degree 
>>of disorder;
>>
>>For example, a solid crystal has low entropy, while 
>>a gas has high entropy because its molecules are 
>>scattered randomly. 
>>
>>The Second Law of Thermodynamics states that the 
>>total entropy of an isolated system can never decrease
>>over time, meaning systems naturally evolve toward 
>>a state of maximum -> disorder.
> 
> So you understand now how none of that is incompatible with
> large-scale evolutionary change (since biological populations are not
> isolated, a condition mentioned even in your explanation above). 
> 
>>In information theory, entropy definition is a little
>>different. 
>>
>>In a general sense, entropy refers to the inevitable 
>>decline of a system from a state of order, to a state 
>>of --> chaos.
> 
> So you're trying a different approach to try to get "entropy" to
> disprove evolution.   For that, you should read: 

I do not deny "evolution", I deny the false meaning 
put on the word. 

You are a "goo to you" believer. A foolish unscientific
fantany.

> https://internet-files.info/textbook-ga-24-1-11/genetic-entropy-and-the-mystery-of-the-genome
> 
> Especially: 
> 
> "Life has evolved sophisticated strategies to combat the inherent
> tendency towards genetic degradation. These mechanisms are vital for
> maintaining genetic integrity and ensuring the successful transmission
> of viable genetic information across generations. Several key
> processes contribute to this genetic repair and maintenance:
> 
> DNA Repair Mechanisms: Cells possess a battery of enzymes and
> molecular pathways dedicated to identifying and correcting DNA damage.
> These systems can repair mismatches, remove damaged bases, and reseal
> broken DNA strands.

What you cited above is all true. Have you ever considered 
how evolution could develop such biochemical mechanisms
that > prevent evolution!? 

> Natural Selection: This is perhaps the most powerful force
> counteracting genetic entropy. 

Oh no. Now he is entering the realm of fantasy.

Yes NS is real, but the effect of entropy on the
genome is continuously going on.

Please stop and consider! 

If there are various forces that will cause genetic 
degradation, can you see that implies there was 
a point in time when there was_no_degradation?

> Organisms with a higher burden of
> deleterious mutations are often less fit, meaning they are less likely
> to survive and reproduce. Natural selection acts to remove these
> detrimental mutations from the gene pool, thereby purifying the
> genome.
> 
> Recombination: In sexually reproducing organisms, genetic
> recombination during meiosis shuffles genetic material, potentially
> breaking up clusters of deleterious mutations and allowing beneficial
> mutations to be more easily passed on.
> 
> Gene Duplication and Redundancy: Having multiple copies of certain
> genes can provide a buffer against mutations. If one copy is rendered
> non-functional, others can still perform the essential task.
> 
> Apoptosis (Programmed Cell Death): In cases of extensive DNA damage
> that cannot be repaired, cells can self-destruct through apoptosis,
> preventing the propagation of faulty genetic information.
> These mechanisms work in concert to maintain the quality of the
> genome, allowing life to persist and evolve despite the continuous
> assault of mutations."


These help to prevent extinction. but entropy keeps marching on.
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