Re: Aquatic Ape Theory

Mario Petrinovic <[email protected]>
Newsgroups sci.anthropology.paleo,alt.atheism,sci.skeptic
Organization Iskon Internet d.d.
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On 9/3/2026 9:47 PM, Attila wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Sep 2026 14:54:08 -0400, JTEM <[email protected]>
> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/3/26 10:30 AM, jojo wrote:
>>
>>> my understanding is we were originally tree folk
>>
>> We split off from monkeys. So our earliest ancestor was
>> a monkey. Now you need a model to guide a small monkey
>> in a tree into something large, tail-less, big brained
>> and upright walking. Well, a model that doesn't insist
>> on magic anyway...
> 
> There is no "model" but there are a lot of small
> evolutionary steps, some of which have been found.

		My steps are:
- apes evolved on cliffs (after 35 mya)
- our are ancestors on sea cliffs (eating fruits and shellfish)
- our ancestors were forced to dip into sea (because fruits were burnt 
in Afar region, hence only shellfish for them)
- we lost fur while still being quadruped, because salt crystals 
destroyed our fur
- in this environment we became bipedal, and started to use vocal 
communication
- after moving to Euroasia we came to Portugal where we met pyrophytic 
Mediterranean ecology, and started to use fire to burn around, first for 
safety reasons, then to feed on burnt meat
This would be the initial state. Later development:
- Homo erectus was doing agriculture, 1.8 mya
- By the time oh Homo sapiens we already had developed societies and 
trading routes, hence everybody could get hematite (which we ground)
Later on it was only technological evolution:
- we started to use ground stone tools (70 kya), which allowed us to get 
a lot of wood for fire and fortification, and also for making boats 
which could go in blue waters
- because of that, fires became hotter, which first led to ceramics, and 
then to smelting of metal
And finally, after adopting money (7th century BC) we established modern 
societies, by financing standing army. As a reaction to greed for money 
modern religions established at 6th century BC (Christianity, Buddhism, 
Jainism, Taoism, Confucianism), which were mostly anti-materialistic (I 
presume, I don't know some of those).
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