Re: God no different from Santa Claus? hahaha :)

stupidist dam pile of shit i ever did hear.
for Santa Claus, is not imaginary.  For He was a real
man, and a true Catholic Saint.

http://www.truecarpentry.org/tccwww/cathwww/dogma/doctrine/councils/11063bPP.htm

And you can believe, God is much more than Saint Nick.

On 2/14/2018 8:28 PM, Jahnu scribbled:
> On Wed, 14 Feb 2018 19:20:10 +0000 (UTC), Sonny
> <[email protected]>  wrote:
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>> So do you. That you've choose to live in a fantasy world doesn't make it
>> any less true.
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> Contrary to you, Sonnyboy, I live in reality, not some weird, fucked
> up Mickey Mouse society in which kids are fed slices of carcasss every
> morning. Good grief, is it any wonder you are such a miserable,
> ignorant bastard growing up in sub-human, weird-ass culture like that?
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> Krishna says:
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> Those who are seers of the truth have concluded that of the
> non-existent [the material body] there is no endurance and of the
> eternal [the soul] there is no change. This they have concluded by
> studying the nature of both. (Bg. 2.16)
>
> So according to Krishna's definition, reality is that which is eternal
> and unreality, or illusion, is that which is temporary. Note that
> illusion does exist, but it is unreal in the sense that it's not
> eternal. Someone may object - if I smash my head into a wall, the pain
> I feel is very real. How can it not be real? But if seen in the light
> of eternity it is not real. Illusion exists, but the reason it is not
> considered real is because it is not eternal.  It's like a dream. A
> dream happens, but when we wake up, we understand it was not real.
> Life in a material body is like that - dream-like. We'll realize that,
> if not before, then at the time of death. Death will be a rude
> awakening for the atheist.
>
> So reality and illusion is defined by time. One is eternal the other
> is temporary.  And if you think about it, it makes sense. Anything
> seen in the light of eternity will be manifested for such a short
> time, that it is as if it didn't really happen.
>
> Brahma, the god of creation, is said to live as long as the universe
> lasts - which is calculated to be 311 trillion solar years. So if you
> live for such an unfathomable length of time, then imagine what a
> person's life-span on earth of, say, 80 years must look like. I don't
> even live for a second from Brahma's point of view. How real would a
> person be to you if he existed for only a second? Think about it.
>
> If you take 80 years out of 311 trillion years it is such a miniscule
> portion of time, that for all practical purposes it might as well not
> have happened. But then, if you take Brahma's lifespan and compare it
> to eternal time, it is just as little. However long time is taken out
> of eternal time, it will still amount to nothing. The duration of the
> universe will make a lifespan on earth seem completely insignificant,
> and the cosmic time of millions, billions, and trillions of years seem
> totally inconsequential and insignificant from the point of view of
> eternal time. So from the point of view of eternity, anything that is
> not eternal is but an illusory glimpse.
>
> That's how one can understand that anything which has a beginning and
> an end is illusory. Only that which is eternal is real.  Now, in this
> world, what is then real, someone might ask. We don't have any
> experience of something that lasts forever, do we? Yes we do. The only
> thing, that lasts forever is the soul - ie. consciousness. The soul is
> eternal, so in the material world the only real thing is the soul,
> everything else is temporary and thus illusory.
>
> That's why self-realization, according to Vaishnava theology, means to
> realize one's eternal self beyond the temporary body and mind. Krishna
> gives a brilliant argument in the Bhagavad Gita to help a thoughtful
> person  experience his eternal self. A person's body goes through
> different stages of infancy, childhood, youth, old age and finally
> death. But during all these changes of the body and the mind, the self
> (the inner sense of I-feeling) or the inner observer remains constant.
> That's one way we can logically understand we are eternal.
>
> The human life-form is unique in the sense that it allows the self to
> understand its own eternality. So the purpose of human life is to
> connect with the eternal self. If one is simply absorbed in the body
> and its demands, one is wasting this valuable opportunity - an
> opportunity that is only available in the human life-form. Eating,
> sleeping, mating and defending, the soul can do in any life-form, but
> only in the human form can the self connect with eternity, ie.
> reality.
>
> Krishna says:
>
> Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these
> kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be. (Bg 2.12)
>
> As the embodied soul continuously passes, in this body, from boyhood
> to youth to old age, the soul similarly passes into another body at
> death. A sober person is not bewildered by such a change. (Bg 2.13)
>
> I am never manifest to the foolish and unintelligent. For them I am
> covered by My internal potency, and therefore they do not know that I
> am unborn and infallible. (Bg. 7.25)
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> https://www.youtube.com/user/jahnudvip?feature=watch
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> https://picasaweb.google.com/113672947796865733014/Jahnu
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> http://www.touchtalent.com//artist/118705/jahnu-das
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B46rjU_q_cM