Re: Recall

On 12/7/2020 4:32 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
> "David R. Birch" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I have a couple of recall notices on my 75k miles 2013 Impreza Sport.
>>
>> Subaru of America, Inc. (Subaru) is recalling certain 2013-2017 MY
>> Crosstrek vehicles, 2014-2016 MY Forester vehicles, 2008-2016 Impreza
>> (4-door) vehicles, 2012-2016 Impreza (5-door) vehicles, and 2008-2014
>> WRX (4-door) vehicles to replace the brake lamp switch.
>>
>> No big deal.
> 
> You don't think getting rear ended because your rear brake lights didn't
> come on when you braked is no big deal?  The recall covers the switch.
> Whose going to cover the damage from getting rear ended?  Yep, your
> insurance company, but you'll be eating the deductible.

I don't understand why you thought NBD might mean I wasn't going to 
bother. I would have taken it to mean "NBD, go for it, it's a free fix."
> 
>> Subaru of America, Inc. (Subaru) is recalling certain 2012-2014 Subaru
>> Impreza, 2012-2013 Impreza Station wagon, 2013 Subaru BRZ, XV Crosstrek
>> and Toyota Scion FR-S vehicles. The engine valve springs in these
>> vehicles may fracture causing an engine malfunction or a possible engine
>> stall.
>>
>> Is there any other work related to this that should be done while I have
>> it in to the dealer?
> 
> Ask the car shop what else gets exposed that could get replaced at the
> same time.  You'll save on the labor charge since there won't be a labor
> charge later to get at any other replacements.  Can't think of anything
> else under the rocker cover to include in preventative maintenance.  I
> don't know they can do the work with the engine still in the car.
> Pretty tight in there.  They should inspect the valve stem seals to see
> if leaking and need replacement.

My experience with dealers is that if they do two things on the same 
disassembly/reassembly, they will often charge as if for two separate 
complete jobs, i.e., two disassembly/reassembly charges. That's what 
their book says to do. Some dealers don't do that.
> 
> Since they'll have to yank the spark plug wires, might be a good time to
> get them replaced or, at least, tested.  They should get a complete
> valve cover gasket *kit*, so all the seals and seats get replaced.  They
> shouldn't reuse anything except the metal cover itself.  It's possible
> when they remove the cover that they discover other parts right there
> that need replacement that may not be covered by the recall.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_1Io3lG8ZY
> 
> After the work is done, you might want to clean the engine, so you can
> check for valve cover gasket leaks soon after the work was done, not
> thousands of miles later.  Check noise after the shop work to check if
> there is more clap noise due to improper rocker adjustment.  My guess is
> the rocker has to get removed to replace the springs, so then they need
> to adjust the rocker when they put it back in atop the springs.  They
> could screw up that adjustment.
> 
> I'm sure if you ask, they'll offer to replace other parts when replacing
> the valve springs.  The recall they have to submit to Subaru to get a
> reimbursement.  The other parts and labor they get to charge to you for
> immediate payment.
> 
>> There's a local car shop that works on Subies that has made me happy, is
>> there any reason why the recall work has to go to the dealer?
> 
> Depends on the car shop.  They don't get paid immediately for the work
> and parts.  They have to submit for a reimbursement, just would the
> dealer's service shop.  They would have to do the work without any
> immediately following payment.
> 
> https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2012/safety-recall-reimbursed-money.shtml
> "Again, these are government rules, so red tape is everywhere."
> 
> You also have to follow all the rules defined by the car maker.  So,
> rules plus more rules.  You could yourself pay for the work and then
> submit a recall reimbursement.  Would you want to risk that, and hope
> you got repaid?  Well, same for a car shop.  The dealer has already
> setup for the recall processing, and have far more experience with doing
> recalls.

I figured most of this, and the major PITA would the shop prying the bux 
out of Subaru. So I'll go to the dealer.
> 
> "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today" (Popeye comics, but
> Wimpy never visits on Tuesday).  Do you think YOU could find a
> restaurant that would accept those conditions?

When I was in Amsterdam, I stopped at a Wimpy bar. The hamburger was 
just OK and I wasn't there on a Tuesday.

David


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