Re: Georgetown and Columbia Law Schools Withdraw From U.S. News Rankings

On 11/19/22 1:51 PM, John Dillinger wrote:
> Georgetown, Georgetown! We are mediocre! ;-)
> 
> 
>   <http://nytimes.com>
> Georgetown and Columbia Law Schools Withdraw From U.S. News Rankings
> Anemona Hartocollis, Eliza Fawcett
> 
> As More Top Law Schools Boycott Rankings, Others Say They Can't Afford
> to Leave
> 
> Four schools joined Yale and Harvard's rebellion against U.S. News.
> And the bar association will no longer require schools to mandate the
> LSAT or GRE. But rankings still matter.
> 
> Nov. 18, 2022
> 
> For more than 30 years, roughly the same 14 law schools have been the
> most highly rated by U.S. News, fluctuating only slightly. The list
> has been so set in amber that people refer to it as the T14.
> Graduating from schools on this list can make a material difference in
> careers, from salary to Supreme Court clerkships.
> 
> Now there is a growing movement to no longer cooperate with the U.S.
> News & World Report rankings. At least four more members of the T14 -
> Stanford, Georgetown, Columbia and Berkeley - have joined Yale and
> Harvard's move this week to withdraw and not submit their data for
> judgment.
> 

The effort is to destroy this system and replace it with a WOKNESS and 
VACCINE PASSPORT SOCIAL SCORE based ranking so that schools... that 
adhere to their NON achievement/merit based system so the Democras can 
use a fluid system that nudges out their enemy, which makes their 
"enemy" a fluid target and they can then block any group they want from 
those colleges that are WOKE enough to get the HIGHER RANKINGS.

Basically the Democrats want no ranking but their own personal whim, to 
be the official rankings.

Democrat want to be the TOTALITARIAN's in control of that system.

It's the same system that the Chinese Communist Party uses in China... 
the first step to being a top credited college will be whether you are 
completely committed to the TOTALITARIAN's in power which in both China 
and American Colleges is the Communists.

You can see that this is a TOTALITARIAN Communist take-over of the U.S. 
Colleges... can't you?  Part of the Democrat party (Obama, Biden, 
Hillary, Soros, Klaus Schwab, AOC) Coup De`tat.





> Their concerns were about ethics, equity and mission. The rankings,
> with their focus on test scores, grades and employment, created a
> perverse incentive to downgrade public service law careers and to
> award merit aid rather than need-based aid, they said.
> 
> Their boycott is part of a broader movement to increase access to law
> school. On Friday, a panel of the American Bar Association voted to
> stop requiring accredited law schools to mandate the Law School
> Admission Test or Graduate Record Examination, making standardized
> testing optional for students applying in the fall of 2025. Critics
> say the tests hinder diversity, and the association's decision comes
> as the U.S. Supreme Court is reconsidering affirmative action in
> higher education.
> 
> Currently, median test scores and undergraduate grade point average
> account for 20 percent of the U.S. News rankings.
> 
> The dean of Georgetown's law school, William M. Treanor, said in a
> statement that Georgetown's mission was to educate lawyers, legal
> scholars and citizens "committed to the struggle for justice and
> protecting the rights of the most vulnerable among us."
> 
> But the U.S. News scoring system, he said in his statement, "reflects
> a different set of priorities." Georgetown Law had not reached a final
> decision on requiring standardized testing, he said later in an
> interview, but it was "something we are looking at."
> 
> He said that he expects law schools, in the coming years, to start to
> turn further away from score-based metrics. Becoming test-optional and
> rankings-averse, he said, "may lead schools to think more
> holistically, 'Is this a person who will make a difference to the
> legal profession?'"
> 
> But changing the law school culture, in both admissions and rankings,
> may be challenging. Some law schools - especially those just below the
> Top 14 - said that despite their qualms about the rankings and the
> tests, it could be hard to abandon them.
> 
> Russell Korobkin, interim dean of the law school at University of
> California, Los Angeles, said that if LSAT requirements were dropped -
> in both admissions and as a measure in U.S. News rankings - he feared
> that even more weight would be put on undergraduate GPAs.
> 
> "The LSAT has its problems, but it at least provides schools with a
> way to compare students who come from different undergraduate schools
> who pursue very different courses of study that are subject to
> different degrees of grade inflation," Mr. Korobkin said in an email.
> 
> U.S. News has said that the rankings will live on. The publication
> announced on Thursday that it would continue to rank the renegade
> schools with publicly available data.
> 
> And many law school deans and professors - inside the T14 and just
> outside of it - said that though the rankings are flawed, they matter.
> They provide a valuable source of information to students and
> employers - as well as valuable marketing.
> 
> They also noted that the T14 is hardly only a creature of U.S. News.
> The prestige is based on longstanding public perception.
> 
> At No. 15, U.C.L.A. is tantalizingly close to the T14. Its dean, Mr.
> Korobkin, said he was concerned that if U.C.L.A. joined in a boycott,
> U.S. News would marshal data in a way that hurt the school.
> 
> "Before I delved into this, I was definitely thinking we would be on
> this bandwagon to try to end the strangulation on the law schools that
> the U.S. News & World Report rankings have," he said. Now, he said, he
> is not so sure.
> 
> The question, he said, is whether refusing to provide data is likely
> to create changes "that are more consistent with our values."
> 
> U.C.L.A. competes with its immediate rivals - like the University of
> Texas at Austin and Georgetown - to break into the Top 14, he said.
> 
> "Five or six years ago, Texas passed Georgetown to get into the T14
> for a year, before Georgetown climbed its way back," he said. "Then we
> got into the T14 for a year. Georgetown spent a ton of money to get
> back at us, but I think we might get there this March."
> 
> To the degree that applicants chose to apply to a law school for its
> high prestige, they were making a rational economic choice, according
> to a paper published in August in the Economics of Education Review.
> Even though the paper found that going to a Top 14 law school did not
> help with passing the bar exam, because it is graded blindly, it had a
> substantial "signaling effect" on employment at firms with more than
> 250 lawyers, which pay some of the highest salaries in the profession.
> 
> "The graduates of T14 universities go on to prestigious careers (large
> law firms and federal clerkships) at rates higher than most other
> schools and earn higher salaries on average," according to the study
> authors, Matthew Naven of Washington and Lee University and Daniel
> Whalen of Columbia University.
> 
> Derek Muller, a professor at the University of Iowa College of Law who
> has studied federal judicial clerkship placement, said he did not
> expect the withdrawals to have significant repercussions on the
> clerkship selection process.
> 
> "Judges know what Harvard and Yale are - there's not going to be a
> surprise," he said. "And regardless of whether or not Harvard's been
> ranked No. 2 or, this year, No. 4, it's not really going to materially
> affect how law firms or how federal judges view the school."
> 
> Columbia and New York University, he said, tend to place large numbers
> of law school graduates into white-shoe law firms, though so do
> institutions like the Howard University School of Law.
> 
> In similar fashion, "elite employment outcomes are pretty closely
> tracked with the school you've attended," Professor Muller said.
> 
> Some deans of law schools below the T14 said that however much they
> might agree with the criticism, withdrawing from the rankings could be
> more painful for them, than for, say, Yale, which has consistently
> been No. 1, since U.S. News began ranking law schools in 1987. (There
> was a hiatus until 1990, but it has continued since then.) Stanford,
> currently No. 2, has also consistently been near the top.
> 
> Angela Onwuachi-Willig, the dean of Boston University (No. 17), said
> that despite some qualms about the rankings, her administration was
> not currently planning to withdraw. She said lower-ranked schools,
> applicants and employers get some benefit out of the "free marketing"
> of the rankings.
> 
> "Yes, a school like Boston University, which doesn't have the legacy
> and the history of a Harvard University, is going to get more of that
> benefit," she said.
> 
> Ken Randall, the dean at George Mason University's law school (tied
> for No. 30), said he agreed that the rankings were flawed and had some
> negative consequences. Nonetheless, "it gives students guidance," he
> said. "Most students don't go to the top 10, and there are about 200
> law schools."
> 
> George Mason's Antonin Scalia Law School has gone up 11 spots in the
> last year, he said. This was done by improving metrics that matter to
> U.S. News, such as admitting students with higher LSAT scores,
> graduating them with less debt and improving the pass rate on the bar
> exam, he said.
> 
> Russell Osgood, dean of Washington University Law School (No. 16),
> said he had been through several efforts to get rid of the rankings,
> as dean of Cornell's law school and president of Grinnell College.
> 
> But lack of information is one reason, he said, that students blindly
> follow the prestige markers. School websites can be misleading, he
> said. "If you go read the school websites, I'll just be honest, some
> of them are phantasmagorical, a lot are incomplete."
> 
> Even the dean of Berkeley, Erwin Chemerinsky, admits there is some
> risk in his school's decision to withdraw.
> 
> "We compete very much with the schools that are around us in the
> rankings," he said. "There's a risk in what I did, if as a result of
> this, U.S. News does a ranking and we fall far in the rankings."

I'll also boycott those schools and their uneducated students that are 
indoctrinated in WOKE-NESS rather than educated  on virtues of the the 
U.S. Constitution and LIBERTY.



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