Re: False Satan's Witnesses Bible Doctrines: Eternal Earth

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In article <[email protected]>,
Christ Rose  <[email protected]> wrote:
>1) Forever means undefined horizons, not eternity without end:
>
>Exodus 21:6
>
>Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him
>to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear
>through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.
>
>In this law, "for ever" is bounded by the physical life of the 
>bondservant. He serves his master until his earthly life ends, 
>demonstrating that the word refers to the duration of a lifetime rather 
>than an endless eternity.
>
>1 Samuel 1:22
>
>But Hannah went not up; for she said unto her husband, I will not go up
>until the child be weaned, and then I will bring him, that he may appear
>before the LORD, and there abide for ever.
>
>Hannah describes Samuel abiding before the Lord "for ever," which refers 
>to his ongoing service at the tabernacle throughout his earthly life, 
>not an eternal, never-ending period of time.
>
>1 Samuel 1:28
>
>Therefore also I have lent him to the LORD; as long as he liveth he
>shall be lent to the LORD. And he worshipped the LORD there.
>
>This verse explicitly defines what Hannah meant by "for ever" six verses 
>earlier. The text directly equates "for ever" with the phrase "as long 
>as he liveth," proving that the term is bounded by human lifespan.
>
>Jonah 2:6
>
>I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was
>about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O
>LORD my God.
>
>Jonah was in the belly of the fish for only three days and three nights, 
>yet he describes that period as being enclosed "for ever." This shows 
>the word can describe a very short, finite period that carries a sense 
>of total enclosure or completion within its setting.
>
>1 Samuel 27:12
>
>And Achish believed David, saying, He hath made his people Israel
>utterly to abhor him; therefore he shall be my servant for ever.
>
>King Achish expected David to remain his servant "for ever," which 
>simply meant for the remainder of David's living years under his authority.
>
>Leviticus 25:46
>
>And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to
>inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but
>over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over
>another with rigour.
>
>Here, bondservice "for ever" refers to an ongoing legal status that 
>lasts for the lifetime of the individuals involved, passed down through 
>generations, rather than an unending state of being.
>
>Philemon 1:15
>
>For perhaps he therefore departed for a season, that thou shouldest
>receive him for ever.
>
>Paul contrasts Onesimus being gone temporarily "for a season" with being 
>received back "for ever," meaning a permanent relationship for the rest 
>of their mortal lives on earth.
>
>As these passages demonstrate, the biblical use of "forever" 
>consistently refers to an age, a defined duration, or the span of a 
>person's life. Rather than signifying infinite time without end, the 
>term marks a full, unbroken horizon bounded by the context of the situation.
>
>2) The Bible directly and repeatedly states the present heavens and 
>earth will be destroyed by fire, dissolve, flee, and be rolled up like a 
>garment.
>
>Isaiah 24:19-20
>
>The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the 
>earth is moved exceedingly. The earth shall reel to and fro like a 
>drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression 
>thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.
>
>Isaiah 34:4
>
>And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be 
>rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the 
>leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.
>
>Isaiah 51:6
>
>Lift up your eyes to the heavens, and look upon the earth beneath: for 
>the heavens shall vanish away like smoke, and the earth shall wax old 
>like a garment, and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner: 
>but my salvation shall be for ever, and my righteousness shall not be 
>abolished.
>
>Psalm 102:25-26
>
>Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are 
>the work of thy hands. They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, 
>all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change 
>them, and they shall be changed:
>
>Zephaniah 1:18
>
>Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the 
>day of the LORD'S wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the 
>fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all 
>them that dwell in the land.
>
>Zephaniah 3:8
>
>Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up 
>to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may 
>assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my 
>fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my 
>jealousy.
>
>Matthew 24:35
>
>Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
>
>Hebrews 1:10-12
>
>And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; 
>and the heavens are the works of thine hands: They shall perish; but 
>thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; And as a 
>vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art 
>the same, and thy years shall not fail.
>
>2 Peter 3:10-12
>
>But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which 
>the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall 
>melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein 
>shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be 
>dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy 
>conversation and godliness, Looking for and hasting unto the coming of 
>the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, 
>and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
>
>Revelation 20:11
>
>And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face 
>the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
>
>Revelation 21:1
>
>And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the 
>first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
>
>
>3) It is the New Heavens and earth which believers inherit for eternity 
>(Revelation 21-22).
>
>“Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the 
>first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy 
>city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a 
>bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne 
>saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell 
>with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with 
>them as their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and 
>death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor 
>pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.”” (Revelation 
>21:1–4, ESV)
>
>So no, this present heavens and earth will not exist forever in the 
>sense of eternity without end. They will exist until Christ returns, 
>reigns for 1000 years, and puts down Satan's final rebellion (Revelation 
>20). The righteous will inherit the present heavens and earth for 1000 
>years to reign with Christ, then the present heavens and earth will be 
>destroyed by fire, dissolved, and folded up like a garment. A new 
>heavens and earth will replace the old ones, and the righteous will in 
>inherit that forever, eternity without end.
>
>
>-- 
>Good News †
>
>Jesus is God: christrose.news/Jesus-God.
>
>There is only one true and saving gospel: Christ died for our sins and 
>rose from the dead (1 Corinthians 15:1-4; Galatians 1:8-9). Every 
>different gospel is deceptive, leading to conscious, eternal torment in 
>the lake of fire (2 Thessalonians 1:8-9; John 3:36; Revelation 14:10-11; 
>Revelation 19:20; Revelation 20:10-15). You will die in your sins if you 
>deny that Jesus is God (John 8:58).
>
>The sacrificial death of Christ paid the penalty for our sins in full 
>(Colossians 2:14), as demonstrated when God raised Him from the dead 
>(Romans 1:4). This allows a righteous God to forgive our transgressions 
>(Romans 3:26) and preserve us from the coming day of wrath (1 
>Thessalonians 1:10). Eternal life is a free gift for everyone who trusts 
>in Jesus (Romans 6:23). Believe the gospel and cry out to the Lord for 
>deliverance (Romans 10:9-13):
>
>How to be saved: christrose.news/salvation

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