Re: Psalm 7: EBTC Insights

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Sat, 22 Aug 2026 13:33:01 +0000,
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  Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Christ Rose <[email protected]> wrote in
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>> Wed, 19 Aug 2026 02:20:22 +0000,
>>    <[email protected]>
>>    Mitchell Holman <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>
>>>
>>>        Why would any god make in "attributes"
>>> invisible?
>>
>>
>>
>>        • Invisibility is inherent to God's nature as a spirit being.
>>          "God is a spirit, and those who worship Him must worship Him
>>          in spirit and truth" (John 4:24).
>>
>>        • God made his invisible attributes evident to man through
>>          creation (Romans 1:20; Psalm 19), specific revelation (Psalm
>>          19; Hebrews 1:1, 2 Timothy 3:16), and by the incarnation of
>>          Jesus Christ (John 1:14, 18; Colossians 1:15).
>>
>>        • If God showed men His full spirit glory without shielding
>>        them
>>          from it in the body of Christ, it would kill them: “Then
>>          Moses said, “I pray, show me Your glory....He said, “You
>>          cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live.””
>>          (Exodus 33:18–20, MEV)
> 
> 


Note: I said "full spirit glory".


> And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as
> a man speaketh to his friend.
> Exodus 33:11


Just a few verses later in the same chapter (Exodus 33:20–23), God 
explicitly tells Moses, "You cannot see My face," and places Moses in 
the cleft of a rock, covering him with His hand so Moses only sees His 
"back" as He passes by. The phrase "face to face" in verse 11 simply 
denotes a deep, intimate, conversational relationship, not a visual 
sighting of God's unveiled shekinah-glory ("full spirit glory").


> For I have seen God face to face, and my life
> is preserved.
> Genesis 32:30


idem.


> And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said,
> Unto thy seed will I give this land:
> Genesis 12:7


idem.


> And when Abram was ninety years old and nine,
> the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him..
> Genesis 17:1


idem.


> And the LORD appeared unto Isaac, and said,
> Go not down into Egypt
> Genesis 26:2


idem.


> And the LORD appeared unto Isaac the same
> night, and said, I am the God of Abraham thy
> father: fear not.
> Genesis 26:24


idem.


> And God appeared unto Jacob again, when he came
> out of Padanaram, and blessed him.
> Genesis 35:9


idem.

> And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared
> unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan.
> Genesis 48:3
> 

idem.

As noted, this was a reference to God's "full spirit glory" (Shekinah). 
In the places you cite, God appeared in a form which veiled it. God was 
not manifesting his "full spirit glory" in those instances, but a veiled 
form they could tolerate. These appearances are typical, pointing 
forward to Christ's incarnation, where God's glory was veiled within the 
temple of His human body (John 1:14; John 2:19-21; Colossians 2:9; 
Hebrews 10:19-20).

John 1:18 states: "No man has seen God at any time. The only Son, who is 
in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him."



>>>
>>>
>>>       It is your claim that people born
>>> before Jesus should be condemned for
>>> not following Jesus.
>>
>>
>>   From the time man sinned until now, God has always declared men
>> righteous and delivered them from condemnation through faith in His
>> promise of a coming "seed" (Christ) who would be their redeemer.


Note: It says God has always declared men righteous and delivered them 
from condemnation "through faith in His promise...". This does not mean 
that all men will put faith in God's promises and be saved, but that God 
has always offered salvation to all men through faith in His promise.

>       
> The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the
> human race had become on the earth, and that
> every inclination of the thoughts of the human
> heart was only evil all the time. The Lord
> regretted that he had made human beings on the
> earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.
> Genesis 6:5


Idem. They were condemned because they did not believe God's warnings 
and promise of salvation ("through faith"). Noah and his family were 
saved through faith. Those who rejected the warning of God perished.

"By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved 
with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he 
condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by 
faith." (Hebrews 11:7)

"And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a 
preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the 
ungodly;" (2 Peter 2:5)


>>
>>        • In Genesis 3:15, God promised the seed of the woman would
>>        crush
>>          the head of the serpent (Satan). After the birth of Seth, men
>>          began to call on the name of the Lord on the basis of faith in
>>          this promise of the coming seed (Genesis 5).
>>
>>        • Romans 4 and Galatians show that Abraham was declared
>>        righteous
>>          on the basis of faith in God's promise to provide a "seed"
>>          through whom all nations would be blessed (Genesis 12:3,
>>          15:5-6, 22:18; Romans 4:3, 13-18; Galatians 3:6-8, 16). Christ
>>          is that seed of blessing.
>>
>>        • Romans 3 shows that Christ's death is a demonstration of
>>        God's
>>          righteousness against sins that were formerly committed in the
>>          Old Testament era (Romans 3:25-26).
>>
>> Christ's death provides a just atonement for the sins of all men past,
>> present, and future. This revelation has been progressive through
>> history, and men have always been declared righteous and saved through
>> faith in that message.
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>          Explain the "divine justice" of
>>>>> God killing the firstborn children in
>>>>> Egypt who never violated any of God's
>>>>> laws.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The implication of your statement is that people are born "innocent"
>>>> and "deserving" of salvation. This is not the case:
>>>
>>>
>>>        And that is the problem.
>>
>>
>> Correct. Faith in Christ's atonement is the solution.
> 
> 
>      Solution to what?


It is the solution not only to man's sin, but also his lack of the 
inherent righteousness God requires to enter His presence:

“For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes 
and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 
5:20, ESV)

“For He made Him who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become 
the righteousness of God in Him.” (2 Corinthians 5:21, NKJV)

Thus, Christ's atonement is the solution in that it not only removes the 
guilt of our sin, but also imputes to us the righteousness of Christ 
which is necessary to enter into God's presence.



>      The firstborn of Egypt did nothing wrong,
> God killed them anyway.


      • How do you know the firstborn of Egypt did nothing wrong?
        "Firstborn" doesn't even necessitate they were babies. The
        first-born could have been 80 years old by the time of that
        plague.

      • “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and
        are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption
        that is in Christ Jesus,” (Romans 3:23–24, ESV). "All" means
        "all". The Bible says "all have sinned".

      • “The wicked are estranged from the womb; they go astray from
        birth, speaking lies.” (Psalm 58:3, ESV) The Bible says the
        wicked are estranged from the womb. They go astray from birth.

      • “Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, and in sin did my
        mother conceive me.” (Psalm 51:5, ESV)

      • "...for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his
        youth..." (Genesis 8:21)

      • "“What is man, that he can be pure? Or he who is born of a
        woman, that he can be righteous?” (Job 15:14, ESV)

      • ""How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be
        clean that is born of a woman?" (Job 25:4)

      • Justification with God requires God's declaration of
        righteousness, not man's (Romans 3:20-24; Romans 4:3-5; Romans
        8:33; Galatians 2:16; Titus 3:5). God knows the secrets
        of the hearts and thoughts (Hebrews 4:12-13). He knows not only
        what people have done, but what they will do (1 Samuel
        23:11-12; 2 Kings 8:12-13; Matthew 11:21-23). We don't.

      • Your computer is 100% free from sin. Does that mean it
        "deserves" to stay in your presence forever? Won't you in fact
        be just when you one day throw it into a trash heap, away from
        your presence? Does it possess the inherent righteousness to
        "merit" your eternal favor? Entering God's presence in heaven
        requires not only a sin-free condition, but also the personal
        righteousness of Jesus Christ being imputed to your account (2
        Corinthians 5:21).

Conclusion: The Bible shows that "all have sinned". Even the absence of 
sin doesn't equal the presence of a righteousness which "deserves" to 
enter heaven. Only faith in Christ's atonement supplies both the removal 
of sin and the imputation of righteousness needed to "deserve" to enter 
God's presence for eternity.


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