Re: A Quora - Can we really stop global warming at this point? - Lynn White

On 11/7/2021 8:35 AM, R Kym Horsell wrote:
> In alt.astronomy a425couple <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Interesting enough views, with some facts and opinions.
>> The really long time periods, fit best
>> with astronomy.
>> Go to the original Quora for charts and graphs
>> David Miller
>> Former Former Faculty, Department Chair and Advisor at Various Colleges
>> and Universities (1982-2015) Updated Oct 31
>> Can we really stop global warming at this point, after all of the damage
>> we've done?
>> Remember back when we were in an ice age and most of the upper US and
>> Canada were covered with ice? Well, granted it was before your time, but
>> it really wasn't that long ago, only 20,000 years ago. Do you want to
> ...
> 
> I'm sorry. This is a mish-mash and pretty much just a reiteration
> of all the --- 
> 
> "Ifn G*d had wanted us to stop punchin ourselbs inna face, He
> wood had showd us how to stop dooin it!".
> 
> And similar.

Interesting that you bring up God, for religion
does indeed (IMHO) play a role in humans developing
and using the planet for their advancement.
Those who think there is a sacred spirit in every
tree, hill, or creek, were not the ones that
did the developments that made the West Rich!

from
https://history.sfsu.edu/sites/default/files/EPF/2015/2011_Emily%20Warde.pdf

CHRISTIANITY AND THE ENVIRONMENT: THE
LYNN WHITE CONTROVERSY
Emily Warde

“And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful and
multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion
over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every
living thing that moveth upon the earth.” (Genesis 1:28)

IN 1966 the historian Lynn White, Jr. delivered an address to the 
American Association for the Advancement of Science in which he
bluntly asserted that Christianity “bears a huge burden of guilt for the
devastation of nature in which the West has been engaged for
centuries.” The address was published as an article in the journal
Science in 1967. White’s work was controversial in academic and
theological circles, and its impact even extended into popular culture.
His ideas inspired a vibrant and long-lasting debate, and many
scholars subsequently weighed in — some supporting, some revising,
and others rejecting the White thesis. Although White first intro
duced his thesis in 1966, the debate surrounding his ideas became
most notable in the early 19705, spurred on by the prominence of the
environmental question in this era. Scholars faced with a surge in
concern for the environment in society at large, in their search for the
intellectual roots of the crisis, necessarily encountered the White
thesis. Although interest in the White argument extended into the
198os and in fact continues in the present, I am concerned here with
this earlier era, especially as exemplified by the publication of Ecology
and Religion in History in 1974, a book devoted entirely to a scholarly
response to White. The editors of this volume, David and Eileen
Spring, argued that by 1974, “to discuss religion and ecology in history

Ernest L. Fortin, “The Bible Made Me Do It: Christianity, Science, and

is largely to discuss the Lynn White thesis.”2 They held that as a result
of the White article, “there has been a candid rethinking of Christian
doctrine.”3
White himself was a devout Christian, and he intended his article
not as a general attack on Christianity, but as a criticism of a particu
lar strain of Christian thought which he saw as the source of western
environmental degradation. However, Christian theologians saw the
White thesis as a powerful critique of modern Christianity, and many
felt compelled to respond. Historians, biblical scholars, and even
ecologists participated in the debate. This essay will examine Lynn
White’s thesis and the intellectual debate it engendered. I