Re: US Vice President J.D. Vance and Tolkien
Louis Epstein <[email protected]> Sat, 3 Jan 2026 19:38:25 -0000 (UTC)
| Newsgroups | alt.books.inklings,rec.arts.books.tolkien,alt.books,alt.literature,rec.arts.books,alt.politics |
|---|---|
| Organization | PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC |
| Message-ID | <[email protected]> |
In rec.arts.books.tolkien O. Sharp <[email protected]> wrote: > Steve Hayes <[email protected]> writes, in part: > >> It has been said that US Vice President J.D. Vance is a fan of the >> work of J.R.R. Tolkien, ad he imself has claimed that "The Lord of the >> Rings" holds the key to his political views. > > It appears he's not the only one, since some others in the basking glow of > the current regime also claim to have Tolkien's work as an inspiration for > their worldviews: like Peter Thiel naming his surveillance and data mining > company "Palantir Technologies", or the up-and-coming defense contractor > "Anduril Industries". > > I'd say, though, they've savagely misread Tolkien, seeing only a vast > Good-Versus-Evil story and picturing themselves as The Good Guys - but > missing every single bit of the subtleties of what being "good" means. > > "Do not tempt me!" Gandalf said when Frodo offered him the Ring. "For I do > not wish to become like the Dark Lord himself." Elrond had similar > sentiments, "[f]or nothing is evil in the beginning. Even Sauron was not > so. I fear to take the Ring to hide it. I will not take the Ring to wield > it." Galadriel's thoughts on the Ring were certainly expressed the most > clearly: "I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning > and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! > Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of > the earth. All shall love me and despair!" Her brief moment in "a great > light that illumined her alone and left all else dark", quickly shunned, > certainly sounds like something Donald Trump would want to have for > himself all his miserable life. (For the end of his miserable life,see quote below) > "Gandalf as Ring-lord would have been far worse than Sauron," JRRT noted > at the end of Letter #246. "He would have remained 'righteous', but > self-righteous." A marginal note adds that if Gandalf had the power of the > Ring, he "would have made good detestable and seem evil", which seems like > exactly the goal our once-fair country is currently set upon. > > ...Maybe Vance thinks he's making things better, you know, by trying to > curb some of Trump's excesses: "the Wise, such as you and I, may with > patience come at last to direct its courses, to control it. We can bide > our time, we can keep our thoughts in our hearts, deploring maybe evils > done by the way, but approving the high and ultimate purpose: Knowledge, > Rule, Order". If so, I'd suggest that Vance ought to reread the trilogy > and see how well that same strategy worked for Saruman when _he_ tried it. "For a moment it wavered,looking to the West; but out of the West came a cold wind,and it bent away, and with a sigh dissolved into nothing." > ...Is my reply, here, showing any slight political bias? :) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > [email protected] "You hold out your hand to me, and I perceive only > a finger of the claw of Mordor. Cruel and cold!" > -- me, to any Republican fund-raiser -=-=- The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again, at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.