Re: School stories

(Maybe this one needs to be narrowed to less groups, or sent to alt.unix.geeks?)

On 2026-04-04, Steve Hayes wrote:

> On Fri, 3 Apr 2026 18:00:06 +0100, Janet <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>In article <[email protected]>, 
>>[email protected] says...
>>> 
>>> On 2 Apr 2026 19:33:18 GMT, rbowman <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> >On Thu, 02 Apr 2026 05:33:56 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Both Kipling and Lewis wrote about Edwardian English public schools.
>>> >> 
>>> >> Lewis also mentioned schools in his fiction, most notably in "The Silver
>>> >> Chair", where he describes authoritarianism in what was ostensibly a
>>> >> libertarian school.
>>> >
>>> >Kipling wrote about the hazing of the younger students by the older ones. 
>>> >In 'Surprised by Joy' Lewis strongly hints there was a sexual element.
>>> 
>>> Lewis doesn't merely hint. He says quite clearly that there was sexual
>>> exploitation at the school he attended. There were not merely
>>> adolescent crushes, but there was systemic exploitation as well. 
>>
>>
>>   I'd be surprised if Kilpling used the term hazing,  or was referring 
>>to that American activity.  He was probably talking about  the  
>>different British custom fagging 
>>
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fagging 
>
> I have only a vague idea of what "hazing" is, and assumed it meant
> something like what was euphemistically called "fresher orientation"
> at one of the universities I attended, in which new students were
> humiliated in various ways to make them understand that they were
> lower than shark shit. 

It's sad that some people do think such orientation has to come with
"hazing". It's perfectly possible to have a community and activities for
orientation and integration purposes without harassment or
humiliation. Yet some, seeing it with milder harassment, will assume
it's good because it can be less strong...

-- 
Nuno Silva