Re: British bread rolls - taxonomy

cshenk wrote:

> Bertie Doe wrote:
> 
>> On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 12:11:14?AM UTC+1, Peter Flynn
>> wrote:
>> > On 29/04/2023 22:50, cshenk wrote:
>> > > Graham wrote:
>> > > 
>> > >> On 2021-08-28 7:20 a.m., Peter Flynn wrote:
>> > >>> On 25/08/2021 17:25, Graham wrote:
>> > >>>> A long but interesting article:
>> > >>>> https://tinyurl.com/283adc2m
>> > >>> 
>> > >>> I just looked at the banner image and I don't
>> > >>> recognize most of
>> > them >>> even though I spent my early life in the UK. I
>> > suspect lots of them >>> are regional, but I'll settle
>> > down and read the
>> > article.  >>>
>> > >>> Graham, what is the name of that bread roll I used
>> > >>> to come
>> > across a >>> lot in the midlands in the 60s and 70s,
>> > and again in London in the >>> 70s and 80s, round,
>> > domed, basically all crust
>> > and hollow inside?  >>> looking nice but a tasteless
>> > swindle of an
>> > empty roll.  >>>
>> > >> I don't know! I hated them too. The "dough buns"
>> > >> that the 2
>> > bakeries >> in my home village made were essentially
>> > small baps. The crusts were >> soft. The bakers would
>> > never have got away with those hollow >> monstrosities!
>> > >> 
>> > >>> We have a different set of breads in Ireland, many
>> > >>> with local names, but one that seems to be making
>> > >>> headway elsewhere after getting its AOC, the
>> > >>> Waterford Blaa, which is like a bap but
>> > round >>> not square, getting its name from a
>> > corruption of the French >>> "blanc" (white) in
>> > reference to the finer flour used at a time when >>>
>> > common flour was brown.
>> > >>> 
>> > >>> Thanks for posting this
>> > >> 
>> > >> I like to help keep the group alive!
>> > >> I remember buying soda bread rolls when I was doing
>> > >> field work
>> > in >> Cork Harbour and other places along the south
>> > coast including Hook >> Head.
>> > > 
>> > > Hi Graham, old messages but just rejoined. Would the
>> > > hollow bread be related to bread bowls for soup back
>> > > then?
>> > Not as far as I know. I think bread bowls for soup are
>> > an American thing; at least, they were unknown in the
>> > UK Midlands in the 60s. These were only the size of a
>> > large dinner roll, so hardly big enough for more than a
>> > couple of spoons of soup, and the walls were so think
>> > that sup would leak through them in seconds.
>> > 
>> > Peter
>> 
>> Top of my bucket list to do, is 'Bunny Chows' South
>> African / Indian Street Food (Bania). Ok, not soup but in
>> SA they use a taller 'Stolen' mold for the bread, filled
>> with curry meat/veg.
> 
> Sounds interesting Bertie and glad to see you are still
> here!  Lee seems gone (she was the blind lady who top
> posted, due to screen reader
> problems).  Dick Margalis (sp?) long gone too.
> 
>  
I'm still lurking!

Carol, I adapted one of your bread machine recipes from
back ~2014 into a sandwich bun recipe that would make
the right amount of dough for my 6-holer pan. It was
the recipe that used celery seed and a bit of rye flour.

I've recently started making them again, and my neighbor
is hooked on 'em. ;) I end up with four out of the six
sandwich buns, but it makes her happy.

Nyssa, who baked sandwich bread yesterday and pizza
bread the day before that and may bake a new triple
chocolate cookie recipe this weekend, time permitting