Re: assuming we don't have a 100x unicorn improvement in battery tech anytime soon ...

On Thu, 30 Jul 2026 10:34:31 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On 7/28/2026 5:36 PM, dart200 wrote:
>> On 7/28/26 2:10 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>> On 7/28/2026 3:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>> On 7/28/26 10:27 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 7/27/2026 6:52 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/27/26 12:36 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/27/2026 3:31 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 15:14:23 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/27/2026 2:00 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/27/26 10:24 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/27/2026 12:40 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/27/2026 12:05 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/26/26 3:14 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/26/2026 4:28 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/26/26 12:30 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/26/2026 4:45 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuclear shipping will be the _only_ way to sustainably 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maintain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the level of civilization we have now,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nvm the possibility of actually bringing about general 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prosperity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but right now such a proposal is politically unfeasible, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trust most of those chucklefucks running nation states? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cause i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure as fuck don't...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    > so what are we gunna do about that duds???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>    > #god
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since the US has an unparalleled record of naval nuclear 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Build a bunch of ships that use the same nuke generators, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the exact same guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's communism dud, as it's the govt doing something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not if private companies do it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that wouldn't the same guys or organization that managed the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> record,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wilson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that record was achieved by navy sailors operating under a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> strict
>>>>>>>>>>>>> military chain of command, managed by officers who will be held
>>>>>>>>>>>>> legally liable on a personal level for major fuckups ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> very much unlike that which is found in limited liability stock
>>>>>>>>>>>>> corporations dud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's all about who owns the means of production.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Spoiled children crying through bullhorns or peaceful 
>>>>>>>>>>> cooperation.
>>>>>>>>>>> It's a choice.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> duds, that record for nuclear operation was achieved by a 
>>>>>>>>>> _govt_ owned
>>>>>>>>>> entity funded by taxpayers, run by people who spend decades in a
>>>>>>>>>> military career (that is therefore highly tracked and reviewed
>>>>>>>>>> internally) before becoming in charge of a nuclear vessel, and 
>>>>>>>>>> held
>>>>>>>>>> personally liable to a strict military hierarchy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes obviously. And a private company could build ships using the 
>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>> sort of reactors the Navy uses (if the Navy shared the specs), 
>>>>>>>>> and then
>>>>>>>>> hire retired military to run them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it won't be a strict military organization dud, they will be stuck 
>>>>>> in a corpo environment, subject to the whims of whoever the fuck 
>>>>>> institutional investor stuck it rich getting lucky, who not only 
>>>>>> follow the delusional ideology u bleat on and on about, but are 
>>>>>> incentivized to cut corners as much as possible for profit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i get that you don't have much conception for systemic 
>>>>>> consequences, as u endlessly try to shirk consequences for ur own 
>>>>>> actions, so you will of course continue to wrongly disagree
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hire retired military.  That's cheating.  The business sector must
>>>>>>>> provide its own highly trained, highly discilplined employees 
>>>>>>>> found on
>>>>>>>> the street.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SMH. Retired military need to eat too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> again u demonstrate how fking ignorant you are...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> retired military at that level get 75% base pay as pension for life 
>>>>>> + medical + SS on top
>>>>>>
>>>>>> they're eating pretty damn well already
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Not so well they'd all refuse $200K+ a year to run commercial ship 
>>>>> reactors.
>>>>
>>>> i still won't trust or support private companies running nuclear 
>>>> shipping dud, ur just a negligent retard who willfully ignores how 
>>>> that record was produced because ur nothing more than unrepentant 
>>>> ideologue
>>>>
>>>
>>> And you think centralized command and control is a panacea, apparently.
>>>
>> 
>> that's what produced the record wilson: a strict military hierarchy 
>> dealing with life/death decision making, where command comes entirely 
>> from within and is strictly audited in performance for actual decades 
>> before given major positions of command
>> 
>> on what basis do have to show that the private market will be anything 
>> of that sort...
>> 
>> just more _bear_ assertions, eh?
>> 
>
>Ah, so the best possible scenario you can imagine is a world that is 
>based on a military structure.
>
>Got it.

No, the implication is that profit motive does not provide the kind of
minds that society needs.
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