Re: what is economics for anyways????????

On 7/29/26 2:12 PM, Wilson wrote:
> On 7/28/2026 3:00 PM, dart200 wrote:
>> On 7/28/26 10:02 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>> On 7/27/2026 7:08 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>> On 7/27/26 1:04 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 7/27/2026 3:17 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2026 12:47:57 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You haven't even defined what you mean by "consumer efficiency". 
>>>>>>>> How
>>>>>>>> about starting there? Because it sounds like made-up bogus 
>>>>>>>> progressive
>>>>>>>> collectivist nonsense that in the end only results in the 
>>>>>>>> reduction of
>>>>>>>> personal agency.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> most utility for least time and cost
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this can be hard to define, but for digital systems this becomes 
>>>>>> much easier due to the precision of the objects being bought and 
>>>>>> sold.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the distribution costs of digital products is so negligible that 
>>>>>> we need to utilize govts to stop it from happening for free. when 
>>>>>> i pay for a digital product i'm not paying for distribution, i'm 
>>>>>> trying to pay for the creation of the product, something which the 
>>>>>> distribution platform has no participation within.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to turn around and have the distribution platform take a 30% cut, 
>>>>>> and then mostly distribute my subscription money away from the 
>>>>>> artists i actually listen to, and instead in accordance with 
>>>>>> massive digital rights contracts between the platform and major 
>>>>>> music publishers... is incredibly inefficient in regards to the 
>>>>>> transaction i'm trying to undertake: which is payback the artists 
>>>>>> for the creation of the music i listen to so that they create more 
>>>>>> of the music is _actually_ listen to...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to the ask my to have to buy and managed my digital library myself 
>>>>>> is asking me to bear a different cost: my time in setting that up 
>>>>>> and doing so. and ur not only asking me to _bear_ that cost, ur 
>>>>>> asking _everyone_ to redundantly _bear_ that cost on an individual 
>>>>>> level across society
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...which is just incredibly moronically inefficient as compared to 
>>>>>> having a single communal digital repository which provides _both_ 
>>>>>> an optimal interface into consumer, and optimal distribution back 
>>>>>> to the artists i _actually_ listen to
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not at all what I was thinking you had in mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> In my business I deal with people in the real world space. What set 
>>>>> me off against the idea of "consumer efficiency" was a system that 
>>>>> decided what was acceptably efficient, placed in between the seller 
>>>>> and the customer. That would be a bad idea for them and the provider.
>>>>
>>>> i have said this many times before: we should open the financial 
>>>> operations of all businesses, and let the consumers decide if the 
>>>> service is truly efficient for the price or not
>>>
>>> Small businesses as well? 
>>
>> ofc
>>
>>> Requiring that sort of reporting (with the necessary legal compliance 
>>> oversight costs) will increase customer costs as well. Doing that 
>>> sort of thin is not automatic.
>>
>> automated reports is not what i'm talking about, i'm talking about 
>> real time auditability where the entire business is run in an open 
>> manner that consumers can browse at their leisure
>>
>> info tech is exactly the kind of thing that solve. govt provides an 
>> efficient platform to run ur business from that has this automated 
>> real time auditability built in. businesses can choose to use it ... 
>> or fail due to the cost of trying to utilize other less efficient 
>> processes. that's fine. people with their head on straight (like not 
>> you) will figure this out
> 
> So I wonder about the unintended second-order effects of that sort of 
> thing.
> 
> If I understand the idea (probably not to your satisfaction) the 
> potential customer could see what products were costing the business and 
> what they are making per transaction.

yes

> 
> It seems likely any business that made a higher profit per customer 
> would be criticized even if their products were less expensive.

i tip my barber like 50% because i like his work bro

> 
> So I wonder, what would be the incentive for a business to improve in 
> order to cut costs if all of that would need to be given back to the 
> customer? Why bother? Why not just let things be as they've always been.

because ur competitor will out compete you for business dumbass

> 
> That's one place I see a drag on innovation.
> 

u think literally any change is a drag on innovation because u don't 
even know what innovation is. the word has been dragged thru the mud by 
wall street blowhards trying to strike it rich

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