Re: assuming we don't have a 100x unicorn improvement in battery tech anytime soon ...

On 7/31/26 11:38 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 11:28:04 -0700, dart200
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/31/26 10:13 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>> On 7/31/2026 12:19 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 12:16:14 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/30/2026 1:07 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2026 10:34:31 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/28/2026 5:36 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/28/26 2:10 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/28/2026 3:06 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> i still won't trust or support private companies running nuclear
>>>>>>>>>> shipping dud, ur just a negligent retard who willfully ignores how
>>>>>>>>>> that record was produced because ur nothing more than unrepentant
>>>>>>>>>> ideologue
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And you think centralized command and control is a panacea,
>>>>>>>>> apparently.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that's what produced the record wilson: a strict military hierarchy
>>>>>>>> dealing with life/death decision making, where command comes entirely
>>>>>>>> from within and is strictly audited in performance for actual decades
>>>>>>>> before given major positions of command
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> on what basis do have to show that the private market will be
>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>> of that sort...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> just more _bear_ assertions, eh?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah, so the best possible scenario you can imagine is a world that is
>>>>>>> based on a military structure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Got it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, the implication is that profit motive does not provide the kind of
>>>>>> minds that society needs.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's this thing called ethics. The free market works best when the
>>>>> participants have a shared and broad ethical system that values (among
>>>>> other things) treating others fairly, the same way most of us want to be
>>>>> treated.
>>>>
>>>> Cool.  Let me know when the markets get within astronomical units of
>>>> that ideal.
>>>
>>> Markets are a function, not a person. Only people can have ethics.
>>>
>>
>> governments are a function, not a person. only people can have ethics
>> and therefore govts can't be immoral.
> 
> And therefore, regardless of the system or the philosophy behind it,
> governments cannot survive long term without ethical people.
> 
> The idea behind the us govt, is that if you split government among
> enough people, there will be sufficient ethical people to keep the
> crooks under control.  It is not clear at this point that we have
> enough ethical people to keep the crooks under control any more.

the founding fathers couldn't have envisioned the impacts of mass media, 
it worked pretty well for a 200 years-ish

> 
> The one thing we do know is that without that splitting, the crooks
> sooner or later will be in control, and getting rid of them is so very
> ugly.


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