Re: The unspoken truth about wildfires

On 7/31/26 1:02 PM, Tara wrote:
> On Jul 31, 2026 at 3:46:18 PM EDT, "dart200"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 7/31/26 12:35 PM, Tara wrote:
>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 3:11:12 PM EDT, "dart200"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 7/31/26 11:25 AM, Julian wrote:
>>>>> On 31/07/2026 19:06, Tara wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 12:40:32 PM EDT, "Wilson" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/30/2026 3:50 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>> Julian <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:56, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:53:09 PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:29, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:04:17 PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly he was proved right. So was I. After I warned in these
>>>>>>>>>>>>> very pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year that government policy was worsening the fire risk on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> moorland, it gives me no pleasure to say: ‘I told you so.’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Ridley
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Indigenous peoples in North America have been conrolling the
>>>>>>>>>>>> threat of wild
>>>>>>>>>>>> fires with prescribed/controlled burns for centuries. Canada is
>>>>>>>>>>>> looking to do
>>>>>>>>>>>> the same in co-operation with our native people. We have a
>>>>>>>>>>>> problem doing this
>>>>>>>>>>>> however because of the acessibility and vastness of our forests.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But in a
>>>>>>>>>>>> country the size of Britain (and other European countries), it
>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to me
>>>>>>>>>>>> that controlled fires are a no brainer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are inaccessible fires in vast forests really a problem?
>>>>>>>>>>> I think they're as likely good for the land's long term health.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is that, but an uncontrolled fire can massively grow and
>>>>>>>>>> send a lot of
>>>>>>>>>> smoke to people populated areas.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A bit like a volcano.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The northeast US is hundreds of miles from the wildfires yet we've had
>>>>>>> serious air quality warnings this year and last. A few weeks ago it
>>>>>>> literally dimmed the sun for several days, making what was otherwise a
>>>>>>> clear day look cloudy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-smoke-millions-exposed-
>>>>>>> midwest-northeast-us/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those pictures are not an exaggeration. That's what it really looked
>>>>>>> like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meanwhile the idiot treehuggers think they know what's best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am an admitted tree hugger but I am also a realist and think that
>>>>>> one answer
>>>>>> here is controlled burning. Another is education and strictly enforced
>>>>>> laws
>>>>>> against those who are careless and start fires through laziness and
>>>>>> ignorance,
>>>>>> clearing vegetation around and near dwellings and building fire resistent
>>>>>> homes.
>>>>>
>>>>> That would probably be more effective than increasing the price
>>>>> of petrol, gas and electricity for already stretched workers.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> jooliean you truly are a useless fucking retard. this ofc isn't written
>>>> for u cause ur determined to take ur damned ignorance to the grave, but
>>>> for the record:
>>>>
>>>> not only are boreal forest are far too vast to effectively mitigate
>>>> increased risk from climate change, meaning we haven't even been
>>>> engaging in serious fire suppression for the much of forest so that's
>>>> _not_ the cause like cons desperate wants to believe; just controlled
>>>> burns don't even effectively mitigate risk as the ecology of a boreal
>>>> forest is different than a temperate one, so it requires fuel management
>>>> strategies that are far more labor intensive
>>>
>>> Ummm. if you care to look back a bit, the problem with boreal forests (in
>>> Canada) has already been addressed.
>>
>> why are you such a dumb fucking liar tara???
>>
>> all u discussed was the size of the forest, u did not discuss the fact
>> the conventional controlled burns do not effectively mitigate fire risk
>> in boreal forests, nor the increased costs of the various techniques
>> that must be employed instead
>>
>> and you still haven't even after i've pointed it out in several posts.
>> clear evidence of refusing to face the facts like a retarded boomer
>>
>>> classic fucking abdfg con
>>>
>>> #god
> 
>    Were you aware of this.  Drones - Is fairly new
> 
> B.C. firefighters use drone to ignite a controlled burn while fighting an
> active wildfire
> 
> Fons Raedschelders said he “shed a very happy tear” over the weekend after
> wildland firefighters in British Columbia conducted a controlled burn using a
> drone on an active wildfire.
> 
> “It’s super exciting,” said Raedschelders, superintendent of the BC Wildfire
> Service’s cultural and prescribed fire program.
> 
> “Those of us who have been kind of working in this space and thinking about
> this for the last six to eight years of where we started the first ones on
> prescribed burns, we’ve been waiting for this moment.”
> 
> The wildfire service announced Tuesday that crews had successfully conducted
> the controlled burn using a drone on the south flank of the Brunswick complex
> of wildfires near Boston Bar, B.C., where residents of hundreds of properties
> have been evacuated.
> 
> The operation is described by the province as a Canadian first, and
> Raedschelders said in an interview Tuesday that there’s room for many more
> applications of drone usage in B.C.’s fight against wildfires.
> 
> He said the service has been testing drones in the prescribed burns program
> for several years and knew the technology could have a major impact on how
> crews battle fires in a variety of situations.
> 
> “We knew that once we could figure it out and get it in there that it would
> provide us with so much,” Raedschelders said.
> 
> The BC Wildfire Service says crews working on the Brunswick complex of
> wildfires near Boston Bar northeast of Vancouver used a drone to trigger a
> controlled burn in what it says was a Canadian first. The wildfire service
> says the drone was able to 'safely and precisely ignite targeted fuels' in
> mountainous terrain.
> 
> Using drones to ignite controlled burns allows access to active wildfires in
> terrains and situations that are unsuitable for helicopters and groundcrews,
> he said.
> 
> The service also uses infrared cameras on the drones to track and map the
> progress of fires with high resolution images through thick smoke and other
> conditions.
> 
> Raedschelders said the images have been crucial in training firefighting
> tactics and they’re used to determine fire conditions without risking people
> on the ground.
> 
> “It provides a lot of what we call situational awareness,” he said.
> 
> “Intel is always the most important part of a lot of this work, and to be able
> to keep crews safe and be more efficient and have more options and see more,
> know more, so we can do the right thing and do more, it’s pretty exciting for
> me.”
> 
> For the ignition, crews used the drone to drop plastic spheres the size of
> Ping-Pong balls that ignite on impact through a chemical reaction.
> 
> Morgan Blois with the BC Wildfire Service said during a news conference
> updating the province’s fire situation on Tuesday that the use of drones to
> drop the ignition devices more precisely allows crews to better track the
> blaze and “prevent any further unwanted spread.”
> 
> It also improves safety for aircrews, as using drones provides them with a way
> to have fewer people in helicopters, preventing unnecessary risks to
> personnel, Blois said.
> 
> Speaking at the same news conference in Vancouver, provincial Forests Minister
> Ravi Parmar lauded the new use of drones in combatting active wildfires.
> 
> “This is an exciting new step in wildfire suppression here in B.C.,” Parmar
> said. “These ignitions are often done by hand or by helicopter and are a key
> part in managing wildfires in very challenging terrain.
> 
> “I’m proud that British Columbia is once again leading the way with this
> technology, while helping to keep our crews safe.”
> 
> A BC Wildfire Service video posted to Facebook showed the drone flying low
> through areas of heavy smoke at levels where helicopters cannot safely
> operate.
> 
> Raedschelders said firefighters do not view it as a competition between drones
> and helicopters as a method of fighting wildfires, but rather as different
> tools that allow to more effectively combat blazes in different settings.
> 
> “We’re constantly uncovering new uses as we integrate the technology,” he
> said.
> 
> “The drone itself or the tools or the capabilities are the easy part. I would
> say the important part is the integration into response operations and the
> systems that we have in place.”
> 
> G&M

literally the first thought in my mind is: is that actually a boreal 
forest??? and the answer is no, boston bar bc is not in a boreal forest

so great: controlled burns do work there, but that doesn't represent the 
vast majority (>75%) of canadian forests which are boreal. bc in general 
is unusual for canada as it has that whole inland rainforest thing going 
on as well

also we could already do areal ignition by helicopters, this is just a 
cheaper version that works if u have road access near by (electric drone 
range ain't great)

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