Re: The unspoken truth about wildfires

On 7/31/2026 3:59 PM, dart200 wrote:
> On 7/31/26 3:54 PM, Tara wrote:
>> Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 7/31/2026 2:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 13:46:39 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/31/2026 12:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/31/26 12:10 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 2:25:03?PM EDT, "Julian" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 31/07/2026 19:06, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 12:40:32?PM EDT, "Wilson"
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/30/2026 3:50 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Julian <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:56, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:53:09?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:29, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:04:17?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly he was proved right. So was I. After I warned in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year that government policy was worsening the fire 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moorland, it gives me no pleasure to say: ‘I told you so.’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Ridley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indigenous peoples in North America have been conrolling the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat of wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fires with prescribed/controlled burns for centuries. Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is looking to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same in co-operation with our native people. We have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem doing this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however because of the acessibility and vastness of our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forests. But in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country the size of Britain (and other European 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countries), it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that controlled fires are a no brainer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are inaccessible fires in vast forests really a problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they're as likely good for the land's long term 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that, but an uncontrolled fire can massively grow and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> send a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> smoke to people populated areas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A bit like a volcano.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah like that.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The northeast US is hundreds of miles from the wildfires yet 
>>>>>>>>>> we've had
>>>>>>>>>> serious air quality warnings this year and last. A few weeks 
>>>>>>>>>> ago it
>>>>>>>>>> literally dimmed the sun for several days, making what was 
>>>>>>>>>> otherwise a
>>>>>>>>>> clear day look cloudy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-smoke-millions-exposed-
>>>>>>>>>> midwest-northeast-us/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Those pictures are not an exaggeration. That's what it really
>>>>>>>>>> looked like.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile the idiot treehuggers think they know what's best.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am an admitted tree hugger but I am also a realist and think 
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> one answer
>>>>>>>>> here is controlled burning. Another is education and strictly
>>>>>>>>> enforced laws
>>>>>>>>> against those who are careless and start fires through laziness 
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> ignorance,
>>>>>>>>> clearing vegetation around and near dwellings and building fire
>>>>>>>>> resistent
>>>>>>>>> homes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That would probably be more effective than increasing the price
>>>>>>>> of petrol, gas and electricity for already stretched workers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yah. And somebody should point out to the 'tree huggers' that 
>>>>>>> controlled
>>>>>>> burning actually saves more trees than not doing it because left to
>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>> wildfires will continue to happen. And trees will burn even more so
>>>>>>> because of
>>>>>>> the weather changes and encroachment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> given that u actually live in canada maybe u should spend half a 
>>>>>> second
>>>>>> researching what it takes to do effective fuel management for the
>>>>>> forests ur actually talking about
>>>>>>
>>>>>> god boomers are so stupid
>>>>>>
>>>>> That should wrap up the discussion about the unspoken truth about
>>>>> wildfires. Good work, Nick! You really trashed Tara's theory by
>>>>> suggesting that, since she lives in the Canadian forest, she should
>>>>> research it using Grok.
>>>>
>>>> Research nothing using grok.  Canada has forest managers, and you can
>>>> bet that they do what they can.  The certainly don't need us telling
>>>> them how to do their job.
>>>>
>>> That being said, no analysis of Canadian forest management can compare
>>> to the great analysis by Nick, who is now an expert in just about
>>> everything, especially fire science and wildfire prevention.
>>>
>>
>> lol. Good one
>>
> 
> if dud had an actual critique on the argument he wouldn't be have to 
> engaging in a _bear_ origin fallacy
> 
You came here to learn fire science and forest management?