Re: The unspoken truth about wildfires

On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 19:35:35 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 7/31/2026 3:59 PM, dart200 wrote:
>> On 7/31/26 3:54 PM, Tara wrote:
>>> Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> On 7/31/2026 2:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 13:46:39 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 12:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/31/26 12:10 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 2:25:03?PM EDT, "Julian" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 31/07/2026 19:06, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 12:40:32?PM EDT, "Wilson"
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/30/2026 3:50 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:56, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:53:09?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:29, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:04:17?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly he was proved right. So was I. After I warned in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year that government policy was worsening the fire 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moorland, it gives me no pleasure to say: ‘I told you so.’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Ridley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indigenous peoples in North America have been conrolling the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat of wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fires with prescribed/controlled burns for centuries. Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is looking to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same in co-operation with our native people. We have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem doing this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however because of the acessibility and vastness of our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forests. But in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country the size of Britain (and other European 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countries), it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that controlled fires are a no brainer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are inaccessible fires in vast forests really a problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they're as likely good for the land's long term 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that, but an uncontrolled fire can massively grow and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smoke to people populated areas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A bit like a volcano.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The northeast US is hundreds of miles from the wildfires yet 
>>>>>>>>>>> we've had
>>>>>>>>>>> serious air quality warnings this year and last. A few weeks 
>>>>>>>>>>> ago it
>>>>>>>>>>> literally dimmed the sun for several days, making what was 
>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise a
>>>>>>>>>>> clear day look cloudy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-smoke-millions-exposed-
>>>>>>>>>>> midwest-northeast-us/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Those pictures are not an exaggeration. That's what it really
>>>>>>>>>>> looked like.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile the idiot treehuggers think they know what's best.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am an admitted tree hugger but I am also a realist and think 
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> one answer
>>>>>>>>>> here is controlled burning. Another is education and strictly
>>>>>>>>>> enforced laws
>>>>>>>>>> against those who are careless and start fires through laziness 
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> ignorance,
>>>>>>>>>> clearing vegetation around and near dwellings and building fire
>>>>>>>>>> resistent
>>>>>>>>>> homes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That would probably be more effective than increasing the price
>>>>>>>>> of petrol, gas and electricity for already stretched workers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yah. And somebody should point out to the 'tree huggers' that 
>>>>>>>> controlled
>>>>>>>> burning actually saves more trees than not doing it because left to
>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>> wildfires will continue to happen. And trees will burn even more so
>>>>>>>> because of
>>>>>>>> the weather changes and encroachment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> given that u actually live in canada maybe u should spend half a 
>>>>>>> second
>>>>>>> researching what it takes to do effective fuel management for the
>>>>>>> forests ur actually talking about
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> god boomers are so stupid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That should wrap up the discussion about the unspoken truth about
>>>>>> wildfires. Good work, Nick! You really trashed Tara's theory by
>>>>>> suggesting that, since she lives in the Canadian forest, she should
>>>>>> research it using Grok.
>>>>>
>>>>> Research nothing using grok.  Canada has forest managers, and you can
>>>>> bet that they do what they can.  The certainly don't need us telling
>>>>> them how to do their job.
>>>>>
>>>> That being said, no analysis of Canadian forest management can compare
>>>> to the great analysis by Nick, who is now an expert in just about
>>>> everything, especially fire science and wildfire prevention.
>>>>
>>>
>>> lol. Good one
>>>
>> 
>> if dud had an actual critique on the argument he wouldn't be have to 
>> engaging in a _bear_ origin fallacy
>> 
>You came here to learn fire science and forest management?

You came here to talk shit?
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