Re: The unspoken truth about wildfires

On 8/1/26 9:50 AM, Dude wrote:
> On 7/31/2026 8:25 PM, dart200 wrote:
>> On 7/31/26 7:35 PM, Dude wrote:
>>> On 7/31/2026 3:59 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>> On 7/31/26 3:54 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>> Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 2:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 13:46:39 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 12:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/26 12:10 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 2:25:03?PM EDT, "Julian" 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 31/07/2026 19:06, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 12:40:32?PM EDT, "Wilson"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/30/2026 3:50 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:56, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:53:09?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:29, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:04:17?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly he was proved right. So was I. After I warned 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year that government policy was worsening the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fire risk on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moorland, it gives me no pleasure to say: ‘I told you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so.’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Ridley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indigenous peoples in North America have been 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conrolling the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat of wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fires with prescribed/controlled burns for centuries. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is looking to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same in co-operation with our native people. We 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem doing this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however because of the acessibility and vastness of our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forests. But in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country the size of Britain (and other European 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countries), it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that controlled fires are a no brainer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are inaccessible fires in vast forests really a problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they're as likely good for the land's long term 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that, but an uncontrolled fire can massively 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grow and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smoke to people populated areas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A bit like a volcano.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The northeast US is hundreds of miles from the wildfires 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet we've had
>>>>>>>>>>>>> serious air quality warnings this year and last. A few 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks ago it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> literally dimmed the sun for several days, making what was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear day look cloudy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-smoke-millions-exposed-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> midwest-northeast-us/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those pictures are not an exaggeration. That's what it really
>>>>>>>>>>>>> looked like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile the idiot treehuggers think they know what's best.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am an admitted tree hugger but I am also a realist and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> think that
>>>>>>>>>>>> one answer
>>>>>>>>>>>> here is controlled burning. Another is education and strictly
>>>>>>>>>>>> enforced laws
>>>>>>>>>>>> against those who are careless and start fires through 
>>>>>>>>>>>> laziness and
>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance,
>>>>>>>>>>>> clearing vegetation around and near dwellings and building fire
>>>>>>>>>>>> resistent
>>>>>>>>>>>> homes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That would probably be more effective than increasing the price
>>>>>>>>>>> of petrol, gas and electricity for already stretched workers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> yah. And somebody should point out to the 'tree huggers' that 
>>>>>>>>>> controlled
>>>>>>>>>> burning actually saves more trees than not doing it because 
>>>>>>>>>> left to
>>>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>>>> wildfires will continue to happen. And trees will burn even 
>>>>>>>>>> more so
>>>>>>>>>> because of
>>>>>>>>>> the weather changes and encroachment.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> given that u actually live in canada maybe u should spend half 
>>>>>>>>> a second
>>>>>>>>> researching what it takes to do effective fuel management for the
>>>>>>>>> forests ur actually talking about
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> god boomers are so stupid
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That should wrap up the discussion about the unspoken truth about
>>>>>>>> wildfires. Good work, Nick! You really trashed Tara's theory by
>>>>>>>> suggesting that, since she lives in the Canadian forest, she should
>>>>>>>> research it using Grok.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Research nothing using grok.  Canada has forest managers, and you 
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> bet that they do what they can.  The certainly don't need us telling
>>>>>>> them how to do their job.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That being said, no analysis of Canadian forest management can 
>>>>>> compare
>>>>>> to the great analysis by Nick, who is now an expert in just about
>>>>>> everything, especially fire science and wildfire prevention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> lol. Good one
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> if dud had an actual critique on the argument he wouldn't be have to 
>>>> engaging in a _bear_ origin fallacy
>>>>
>>> You came here to learn fire science and forest management?
>>
>> you came HERE to be enlightened???
>>
> So, what are you doing?
> 
> Apparently Nick doesn't even have home solar. He's probably using way 
> too much energy cooling his crib with an electric heat pump.
> 
> At least Nick and Noah could set an example. YMMV.

you came HERE to get eNlIgHtEnEd???

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