Re: The unspoken truth about wildfires

On Sat, 1 Aug 2026 10:11:53 -0700, dart200
<[email protected]> wrote:

>On 8/1/26 10:07 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>> On Sat, 1 Aug 2026 12:52:40 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 7/31/2026 6:44 PM, Creon wrote:
>>>> At Fri, 31 Jul 2026 16:20:28 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/31/2026 2:06 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 12:40:32?PM EDT, "Wilson"
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/30/2026 3:50 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>> Julian <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:56, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:53:09?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:29, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:04:17?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly he was proved right. So was I. After I warned in these
>>>>>>>>>>>>> very pages last year that government policy was worsening
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fire risk on moorland, it gives me no pleasure to say:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ‘I told you so.’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Ridley
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Indigenous peoples in North America have been conrolling the
>>>>>>>>>>>> threat of wild fires with prescribed/controlled burns for
>>>>>>>>>>>> centuries. Canada is looking to do the same in co-operation
>>>>>>>>>>>> with our native people. We have a problem doing this however
>>>>>>>>>>>> because of the acessibility and vastness of our forests. But
>>>>>>>>>>>> in a country the size of Britain (and other European
>>>>>>>>>>>> countries), it seems to me that controlled fires are a no
>>>>>>>>>>>> brainer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Are inaccessible fires in vast forests really a problem?
>>>>>>>>>>> I think they're as likely good for the land's long term health.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is that, but an uncontrolled fire can massively grow and
>>>>>>>>>> send a lot of smoke to people populated areas.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A bit like a volcano.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The northeast US is hundreds of miles from the wildfires yet we've
>>>>>>> had serious air quality warnings this year and last. A few weeks
>>>>>>> ago it literally dimmed the sun for several days, making what was
>>>>>>> otherwise a clear day look cloudy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-smoke-millions-exposed-midwest-northeast-us/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those pictures are not an exaggeration. That's what it really
>>>>>>> looked like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Meanwhile the idiot treehuggers think they know what's best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am an admitted tree hugger but I am also a realist and think that
>>>>>> one answer here is controlled burning. Another is education and
>>>>>> strictly enforced laws against those who are careless and start
>>>>>> fires through laziness and ignorance, clearing vegetation around
>>>>>> and near dwellings and building fire resistent homes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes I agree. The funny thing is, the idiot treehuggers I'm talking
>>>>> about are killing more trees by not allowing beneficial things like
>>>>> controlled burns.
>>>>
>>>> Not true.
>>>>
>>>> You seem to be living about four decades behind, Sir.
>>>
>>> Because you say so?
>>>
>>> Who's stopping the controlled burns and brush clearing in California?
>>> It's not the foresters.
>> 
>> Nobody, I suspect.  But as always, store clerks and truck drivers
>> think they need to tell professionals how to do their job.  How to
>> manage (where and when) controlled burning for instance.
>
>i suspect like everything the cons comments on: it's probably more 
>complex then they have the attention span to digest

I can suggest a univ where a person can get a degree in fire science,
or another with a forestry management program.  Of course the
frustrating thing you learn is that store clerks and truck drivers
still think they need to tell you how to do your jobs.
-- 
Noah Sombrero mustachioed villain
Don't get political with me young man
or I'll tie you to a railroad track and
<<<talk>>> to <<<YOOooooo>>>
Who dares to talk to El Sombrero?
dares: Ned
does not dare: Julian  shrinks in horror and warns others away