Re: The unspoken truth about wildfires

On Sat, 1 Aug 2026 13:10:09 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 8/1/2026 9:57 AM, dart200 wrote:
>> On 8/1/26 9:50 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>> On 7/31/2026 11:03 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 19:54:09 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 7/31/2026 2:29 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 21:28:14 -0000 (UTC), Tara <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 5:23:29?PM EDT, "Noah Sombrero" <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 16:20:28 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 2:06 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 12:40:32?PM EDT, "Wilson" 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/30/2026 3:50 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:56, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:53:09?PM EDT, "Julian" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:29, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:04:17?PM EDT, "Julian" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly he was proved right. So was I. After I warned in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these very pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year that government policy was worsening the fire 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moorland, it gives me no pleasure to say: ?I told you so.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Ridley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indigenous peoples in North America have been conrolling 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the threat of wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fires with prescribed/controlled burns for centuries. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada is looking to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same in co-operation with our native people. We have 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a problem doing this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however because of the acessibility and vastness of our 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forests. But in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country the size of Britain (and other European 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countries), it seems to me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that controlled fires are a no brainer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are inaccessible fires in vast forests really a problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they're as likely good for the land's long term 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> health.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that, but an uncontrolled fire can massively grow 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and send a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smoke to people populated areas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A bit like a volcano.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The northeast US is hundreds of miles from the wildfires yet 
>>>>>>>>>>> we've had
>>>>>>>>>>> serious air quality warnings this year and last. A few weeks 
>>>>>>>>>>> ago it
>>>>>>>>>>> literally dimmed the sun for several days, making what was 
>>>>>>>>>>> otherwise a
>>>>>>>>>>> clear day look cloudy.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-smoke-millions-exposed- 
>>>>>>>>>>> midwest-northeast-us/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Those pictures are not an exaggeration. That's what it really 
>>>>>>>>>>> looked like.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile the idiot treehuggers think they know what's best.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am an admitted tree hugger but I am also a realist and think 
>>>>>>>>>> that one answer
>>>>>>>>>> here is controlled burning. Another is education and strictly 
>>>>>>>>>> enforced laws
>>>>>>>>>> against those who are careless and start fires through laziness 
>>>>>>>>>> and ignorance,
>>>>>>>>>> clearing vegetation around and near dwellings and building fire 
>>>>>>>>>> resistent
>>>>>>>>>> homes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes I agree. The funny thing is, the idiot treehuggers I'm 
>>>>>>>>> talking about
>>>>>>>>> are killing more trees by not allowing beneficial things like 
>>>>>>>>> controlled
>>>>>>>>> burns.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Asl if tree huggers had the power to allow or not allow anything.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They vote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same as the tree choppers.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Just for the record you live in a house made out of lumber, right?
>>>>
>>>> Brick mostly.
>>>
>>> Almost all brick houses have timber frame construction. The brick is 
>>> just on the outside.
>>>
>> 
>> in north america sure. most of the planet doesn't use timber framing
> >
>About 90% to 94% of new homes in the United States and Canada use wood 
>framing because of vast local forests.

Or what used to be vast forests.
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