Re: assuming we don't have a 100x unicorn improvement in battery tech anytime soon ...

On 8/1/2026 10:28 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Aug 2026 13:22:30 -0400, Wilson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/1/2026 12:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>> On 8/1/26 9:17 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>> On 7/31/2026 6:45 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>> On 7/31/26 1:14 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 2:31 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/31/26 10:14 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 12:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/26 9:16 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There's this thing called ethics. The free market works best
>>>>>>>>>> when the participants have a shared and broad ethical system
>>>>>>>>>> that values (among other things) treating others fairly, the
>>>>>>>>>> same way most of us want to be treated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> coercive border control certainly isn't treating people fairly u
>>>>>>>>> twat lol
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Open borders, which drive down pay for the lowest earners, are
>>>>>>>> certainly not treating the people who already live there fairly,
>>>>>>>> you mental munchkin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> errr ... so competing in an open labor market is now unfair because
>>>>>>> it results in the market driving down the price of labor???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that's exactly the market working as intended, what exactly is
>>>>>>> unfair about it???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what actual ethical principle has even been violated???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not allowing the owners to have a say in how things are run.
>>>>>
>>>>> ummm ... why would "the owners" /want/ to override the principles of
>>>>> free and open markets dud???
>>>>>
>>>>> it brings prosperity for all, eh?
>>>>
>>>> Because they might see certain actions as acting against their best
>>>> interests, like collectivists do for instance.
>>>
>>> so ur just arbitrarily deciding when to not abide by free market
>>> principles... when it suits you???
>>>
>>> how is _that_ fairness???
>>
>> It isn't. But it is self-interest and before we throw that out like Noah
>> says he wants to do, we need to take a good hard look at what the world
>> would be like if we don't allow people to materially improve their lives
>> through their own efforts.
> 
> Why, they could be materially improving life in society generally.
> Imagine that.  I know, scary,.
 >
Improving their lives by redistributing the lands, all voluntarily, with 
no free market, or without any money to invest?