Re: assuming we don't have a 100x unicorn improvement in battery tech anytime soon ...

On 8/1/26 10:22 AM, Wilson wrote:
> On 8/1/2026 12:38 PM, dart200 wrote:
>> On 8/1/26 9:17 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>> On 7/31/2026 6:45 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>> On 7/31/26 1:14 PM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>> On 7/31/2026 2:31 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/31/26 10:14 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 12:22 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/31/26 9:16 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's this thing called ethics. The free market works best 
>>>>>>>>> when the participants have a shared and broad ethical system 
>>>>>>>>> that values (among other things) treating others fairly, the 
>>>>>>>>> same way most of us want to be treated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> coercive border control certainly isn't treating people fairly u 
>>>>>>>> twat lol
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Open borders, which drive down pay for the lowest earners, are 
>>>>>>> certainly not treating the people who already live there fairly, 
>>>>>>> you mental munchkin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> errr ... so competing in an open labor market is now unfair 
>>>>>> because it results in the market driving down the price of labor???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that's exactly the market working as intended, what exactly is 
>>>>>> unfair about it???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what actual ethical principle has even been violated???
>>>>>
>>>>> Not allowing the owners to have a say in how things are run.
>>>>
>>>> ummm ... why would "the owners" /want/ to override the principles of 
>>>> free and open markets dud???
>>>>
>>>> it brings prosperity for all, eh?
>>>
>>> Because they might see certain actions as acting against their best 
>>> interests, like collectivists do for instance.
>>
>> so ur just arbitrarily deciding when to not abide by free market 
>> principles... when it suits you???
>>
>> how is _that_ fairness???
> 
> It isn't. But it is self-interest and before we throw that out like Noah 
> says he wants to do, we need to take a good hard look at what the world 
> would be like if we don't allow people to materially improve their lives 
> through their own efforts.
> 

i'm sorry, opening the borders does not then prevent people from 
materially improving their lives thru their own efforts dud ... that's a 
total non-sequitur

if they don't like low wage work they should start a business or invest 
ya know???

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