Re: The unspoken truth about wildfires

On 8/1/2026 6:57 PM, dart200 wrote:
> On 8/1/26 12:21 PM, Dude wrote:
>> On 8/1/2026 9:53 AM, dart200 wrote:
>>> On 8/1/26 9:50 AM, Dude wrote:
>>>> On 7/31/2026 8:25 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>> On 7/31/26 7:35 PM, Dude wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 3:59 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/31/26 3:54 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 2:20 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 13:46:39 -0700, Dude 
>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/2026 12:13 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/31/26 12:10 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 2:25:03?PM EDT, "Julian" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 31/07/2026 19:06, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 31, 2026 at 12:40:32?PM EDT, "Wilson"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/30/2026 3:50 PM, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Julian <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:56, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:53:09?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/07/2026 19:29, Tara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2026 at 2:04:17?PM EDT, "Julian"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sadly he was proved right. So was I. After I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warned in these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very pages
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> last year that government policy was worsening the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fire risk on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moorland, it gives me no pleasure to say: ‘I told 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you so.’
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Ridley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indigenous peoples in North America have been 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conrolling the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threat of wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fires with prescribed/controlled burns for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> centuries. Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is looking to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same in co-operation with our native people. We 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem doing this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> however because of the acessibility and vastness of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forests. But in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> country the size of Britain (and other European 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> countries), it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that controlled fires are a no brainer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are inaccessible fires in vast forests really a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they're as likely good for the land's long 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> term health.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is that, but an uncontrolled fire can massively 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> grow and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> send a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> smoke to people populated areas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A bit like a volcano.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The northeast US is hundreds of miles from the wildfires 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet we've had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serious air quality warnings this year and last. A few 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weeks ago it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literally dimmed the sun for several days, making what 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was otherwise a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear day look cloudy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wildfires-smoke-millions- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exposed-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> midwest-northeast-us/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those pictures are not an exaggeration. That's what it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looked like.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile the idiot treehuggers think they know what's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am an admitted tree hugger but I am also a realist and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one answer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here is controlled burning. Another is education and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> strictly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enforced laws
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against those who are careless and start fires through 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> laziness and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorance,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearing vegetation around and near dwellings and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building fire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resistent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> homes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That would probably be more effective than increasing the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> price
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of petrol, gas and electricity for already stretched workers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> yah. And somebody should point out to the 'tree huggers' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that controlled
>>>>>>>>>>>>> burning actually saves more trees than not doing it because 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> left to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wildfires will continue to happen. And trees will burn even 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more so
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the weather changes and encroachment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> given that u actually live in canada maybe u should spend 
>>>>>>>>>>>> half a second
>>>>>>>>>>>> researching what it takes to do effective fuel management 
>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> forests ur actually talking about
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> god boomers are so stupid
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That should wrap up the discussion about the unspoken truth 
>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>> wildfires. Good work, Nick! You really trashed Tara's theory by
>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting that, since she lives in the Canadian forest, she 
>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>> research it using Grok.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Research nothing using grok.  Canada has forest managers, and 
>>>>>>>>>> you can
>>>>>>>>>> bet that they do what they can.  The certainly don't need us 
>>>>>>>>>> telling
>>>>>>>>>> them how to do their job.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That being said, no analysis of Canadian forest management can 
>>>>>>>>> compare
>>>>>>>>> to the great analysis by Nick, who is now an expert in just about
>>>>>>>>> everything, especially fire science and wildfire prevention.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> lol. Good one
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> if dud had an actual critique on the argument he wouldn't be have 
>>>>>>> to engaging in a _bear_ origin fallacy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> You came here to learn fire science and forest management?
>>>>>
>>>>> you came HERE to be enlightened???
>>>>>
>>>> So, what are you doing?
>>>>
>>>> Apparently Nick doesn't even have home solar. He's probably using 
>>>> way too much energy cooling his crib with an electric heat pump.
>>>>
>>>> At least Nick and Noah could set an example. YMMV.
>>>
>>> you came HERE to get eNlIgHtEnEd???
>>>
>> Let's not be hypocritical! You and Noah could do something to help 
>> save the planet. Do nothing, do nothing, deny deny.
> 
> let me ask again: you came HERE to get eNlIgHtEnEd???
> 
Let me ask Nick and Noah why don't you do something?