Re: Private Property

On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 09:32:33 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> wrote:

>On 8/9/2026 9:18 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
>> On Sun, 9 Aug 2026 09:03:41 -0700, Dude <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8/9/2026 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in many
>>>> ways to an economic ideology centered around private property.  It gives
>>>> me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing the Declaration
>>>> of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed by their Creator
>>>> with certain unalienable rights, among them are life, liberty, and the
>>>> pursuit of happiness."
>>>>
>>>> Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in his
>>>> Second Treatise of Government in 1690 – "lives, liberties, and estates,
>>>> which I call by the general name, property," and broadened it.  They
>>>> presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and that the greater
>>>> aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of happiness" (what we
>>>> call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
>>>>
>>>> Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, George
>>>> Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that "the
>>>> enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and
>>>> possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining
>>>> happiness and safety."  The founding fathers were not waxing and waning
>>>> philosophically – well, they were not /only/ doing that – they were
>>>> expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new world.
>>>>
>>>> The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was one of
>>>> private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership discouraging
>>>> productive work, and one where resentment was inevitable when rewards
>>>> were equal, but effort was not.  Communal ownership of property had
>>>> failed in practice because it was first a failed theory.
>>>>
>>>> Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to earn,
>>>> hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor.  It
>>>> produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align with
>>>> human nature.
>> 
>> It can be defined that way...or not.  
> >
>Did you complete 5th grade history class?
> >
>There is nothing a priori about it.
>>
>You're cutting out again. A natural human right is a priori, that's why 
>it is called a natural right, meaning from birth.

You can define it that way if you insist.  I insist otherwise.


>We studied this in school: The French Revolution
>
>The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 1789.. 
>Established private property as a basic human right. How?
>
>By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections for 
>individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
> >
>
>>>> David L. Bahnsen
>>>>
>>> We studied this in school: The French Revolution
>>>
>>> The revolution ended noble land monopolies and peasant dues in 1789..
>>> Established private property as a basic human right. How?
>>>
>>> By abolishing feudal land rights and establishing legal protections for
>>> individual ownership in the Declaration of the Rights of Man.
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