Re: Private Property

Dude <[email protected]>
Newsgroups alt.buddha.short.fat.guy,alt.messianic
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 8/9/2026 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
> On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
>> On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>> At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in 
>>> many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property. 
>>> It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing the 
>>> Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed by 
>>> their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are life, 
>>> liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
>>>
>>> Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in 
>>> his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 – "lives, liberties, and 
>>> estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened 
>>> it.  They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and 
>>> that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of 
>>> happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
>>>
>>> Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, George 
>>> Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that "the 
>>> enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and 
>>> possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining 
>>> happiness and safety."  The founding fathers were not waxing and 
>>> waning philosophically – well, they were not /only/ doing that – they 
>>> were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new world.
>>>
>>> The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was one 
>>> of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership 
>>> discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was inevitable 
>>> when rewards were equal, but effort was not.  Communal ownership of 
>>> property had failed in practice because it was first a failed theory.
>>>
>>> Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to 
>>> earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor. 
>>> It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align 
>>> with human nature.
>>>
>>> David L. Bahnsen
>>>
>>
>> i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and 
>> flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a 
>> nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of 
>> movement
>>
>> this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is 
>> keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning 
>> stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
> 
> Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is oriented 
> towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human person, it 
> is a natural human right.
> 
> Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is inherently 
> a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that property is also 
> a human right.
> 
> Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural rights 
> is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life and of humanity.
> 
Notice: Property Protected 24 hrs by Smith & Wesson.
lmpx.com only provides a reader for public news (NNTP) servers. It is not affiliated with the servers or forums shown here and is not responsible for the content of articles, which is written by their respective authors.