Re: Private Property

On 8/9/2026 6:12 PM, dart200 wrote:
> On 8/9/26 11:28 AM, Wilson wrote:
>> On 8/9/2026 1:34 PM, dart200 wrote:
>>> On 8/9/26 8:45 AM, Wilson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> At its core, free enterprise and a market economy can be reduced in 
>>>> many ways to an economic ideology centered around private property. 
>>>> It gives me extraordinary joy to see how our founders, in writing 
>>>> the Declaration of Independence, declared that all men were "endowed 
>>>> by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, among them are 
>>>> life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."
>>>>
>>>> Here, the founders took the natural rights John Locke wrote about in 
>>>> his Second Treatise of Government in 1690 – "lives, liberties, and 
>>>> estates, which I call by the general name, property," and broadened 
>>>> it.  They presupposed that property was necessary for liberty and 
>>>> that the greater aspiration behind private property was "pursuit of 
>>>> happiness" (what we call "human flourishing" in my tradition).
>>>>
>>>> Just weeks before the Declaration of Independence was written, 
>>>> George Mason had codified in the Virginia Declaration of Rights that 
>>>> "the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and 
>>>> possessing property" were predicates to "pursuing and obtaining 
>>>> happiness and safety."  The founding fathers were not waxing and 
>>>> waning philosophically – well, they were not /only/ doing that – 
>>>> they were expressing the lived experience of the settlers in the new 
>>>> world.
>>>>
>>>> The lived experience that served as the bedrock of our nation was 
>>>> one of private ownership driving incentives, of communal ownership 
>>>> discouraging productive work, and one where resentment was 
>>>> inevitable when rewards were equal, but effort was not.  Communal 
>>>> ownership of property had failed in practice because it was first a 
>>>> failed theory.
>>>>
>>>> Private property is a natural right that flows from our ability to 
>>>> earn, hold, possess, retain, and manage the fruits of our own labor. 
>>>> It produces responsibility, stewardship, and abundance that align 
>>>> with human nature.
>>>>
>>>> David L. Bahnsen
>>>>
>>>
>>> i love how capitalists love to jerk themselves off about freedom and 
>>> flourishing endlessly while ignoring the fact 7/8 are enslaved to a 
>>> nation-state system that coercively interferes with basic freedom of 
>>> movement
>>>
>>> this world is a travesty of authoritarian control all you can do is 
>>> keep crying endlessly about private property, as violently owning 
>>> stuff is the _only_ principle you actually care about
>>
>> Self-defense is not the initiation of violence, and as it is oriented 
>> towards the protection of life and the thriving of the human person, 
>> it is a natural human right.
> 
> you are _not_ your property
> 
>>
>> Property as gained by the effort and work of a human being is 
>> inherently a part of that person's life. As such, defense of that 
>> property is also a human right.
> 
> even the person who first came up with that predicated that right to 
> mixing labor with land to claim property, on there being enough common 
> lands left for all to utilize...
> 
> which we've gone so far past that you want to keep 7/8 people on this 
> planet chained to the nation state they were born in without even the 
> permission to leave.
> 
>>
>> Anyone who attempts to take away one's property or other natural 
>> rights is an enabler of tyranny, and therefore an enemy of life and of 
>> humanity.

I'm not keeping them in their home countries. They just can't all come 
here, that's all.